I want to do a #bitcoin privacy challenge
Imagine that I share an invoice, would that be enough to start tracking? My idea is to use 3 wallets #lightning -> #lightning -> #onchain
If anyone can tell me the final address and sats quantity takes the funds.
What do you think of the idea? Is it plausible or is this not the best method? #asknostr
my guess is you'll use a mixing wallet like samourai or wasabi which will end up being more than 3 transactions
Withou Mixing. I'm going to simulate a P2P purchase on lightning, first wallet (seller) sends it to my wallet and then I send it to cold storage.
ok, that would sound reasonably easy to trace since it's only 2 hops 🤔
That's the idea, let's see how easy it is or not.
I would be curious myself to see how it's done.
I'm trying to figure out if lightning routing data is publicly available or if only the routing operator has insight into the traces.
Critics of bitcoin privacy say that lightning is not privacy strong but if only the operator has the information and I use my own node it might be untraceable. 🤔
that's what I'm trying to figure out.
so far it does seem that way and if this is the case, you'd have to listen to the network traffic directly and inspect it which is not am easy feat if it's secured behind tor & ssl, plus then you would also need to piece together that information (which arguably could be automated)
I don't know exactly how the lighning transaction is traced into bitcoin but could be worthwhile having a look. maybe I'll be able to figure it out
That's a good idea.
However, I'm not sure that revealing your on-chain address is a real privacy issue, since your on-chain address is not linked to your identity.
Furthermore, If there were a few on-chain p2p transactions in the middle would make it practically untraceable. additionally if there's an LN in the middle it would makes harder.
I think that moving physical stuff in the real world has more to do with privacy issues than Bitcoin.
I think you're right, revealing my onchain address wouldn't be a real privacy issue. Thinking...
You wouldn’t be able to find out anything is my best guess.
