My statement being irrelevant is not the point. The market has made its decision, just check the XMR/BTC graph. Every year that passes, #monero loses, not only to #bitcoin but to other shitcoins aswell.

Not hating on you, in fact, what hurts me the most is that the Monero community, unlike other shitcoiners, comprises of smart individuals who value #privacy and #freedom. Unfortunately, many become blinded and turn into maxis, constantly hating on #btc and refusing to acknowledge that #xmr is merely a privacy tool, a pseudo-L2 for Bitcoin and nothing else. It's a hot potato, where users constantly atomic swap to and from Bitcoin. No one wants to hold it medium-term, let alone long-term. And no one accepts it as a currency besides few privacy services. It has failed both as a store-of-value and as a currency.

It's actually easy to catch Monero maxis here on #nostr, they don't even bother setting up a Lightning address to receive zaps. They also think Monero will catch up to Bitcoin in the future, it won't. There is no second best. You can Bitcoin, or you can lose (with Monero), but at least you lose privately.

On-chain mixing, #lightning, #liquid, and eCash offer enough privacy for the majority of people. Unless you are into shady darknet markets, there's no need for Monero.

This is probably my last time answering about Monero-related topics. Bees don't waste their time explaining to flies that honey is better than shit. Best of luck to all Monero holders, I hope they can weather the storm ahead and jump ship before it's too late.

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DNM Will never stop using it

Who really cares about shady darknet markets?

It's not for normal people, not for hardworking people with families, not for farmers, artists or anyone really. It's for script kiddies and criminals. All you find there is hard drugs, guns, data leaks, hitman/doxxing/harassment services, cp, or other crazy illegal stuff.

I'm starting to believe that most #xmr users might be in fact hardcore criminals hiding from 3-letter agencies. The DNM argument is thrown everytime by #monero people, it seems that it's the only thing that matters to them.

Bitcoin was born out of darknet markets. Are you that ignorant?

It's the testing ground. If your crypto can make it there it can make it anywhere. It's a highly adversarial environment. That's why it's important.

Yes they all are… ignorant to this…

Who told you "Bitcoin is private"? Why all these strawman arguments?? It's a **public** ledger.

A **straw man argument**, sometimes referred to as a **straw person argument**, is a **logical fallacy** where an individual distorts an opposing position into an **extreme version** of itself and then **argues against that exaggerated version**. Here's how it works:

1. **Distortion**: The arguer takes the opposing point of view and **strips it of nuance**, often **misrepresenting it negatively**.

2. **Extreme Version**: They create an **imaginary caricature** of the opposing argument, making it **easier to attack**.

3. **Avoiding Nuanced Debate**: Instead of engaging with the actual argument, they **focus on this distorted version**.

Imagine arguing with a scarecrow: you can make any argument you want, and the scarecrow won't argue back. By positioning the scarecrow's argument in a way that suits you, you create a straw man. It's like arguing against an imaginary opponent, making your own argument sound infallible. However, this fallacy avoids addressing the **relevant components** of the opponent's position¹²³.

So, next time you encounter a straw man, remember that it's akin to battling a scarecrow—an illusion that lacks substance. 🌾🤔.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 15/02/2024

(1) What Is a Straw Man Argument? Definition and Examples. https://www.grammarly.com/blog/straw-man-fallacy/.

(2) What is a Straw Man Argument? - Language Humanities. https://www.languagehumanities.org/what-is-a-straw-man-argument.htm.

(3) Definition and Examples of the Straw Man Fallacy - ThoughtCo. https://www.thoughtco.com/straw-man-fallacy-1692144.

(4) What Is Straw Man Fallacy? | Definition & Examples - Scribbr. https://www.scribbr.com/fallacies/straw-man-fallacy/.

(5) Strawman Arguments: What They Are and How to Counter Them. https://effectiviology.com/straw-man-arguments-recognize-counter-use/.

(6) en.wikipedia.org. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man.

Privacy isn't a crime captain shitface

You start to sound like a fucking government agent

I don't even bother to reply anything else as you seem unable to think properly

Shhhh, don't tell anyone.

Sounds like what people say about bitcoin.