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Talked with nostr:nprofile1qqs25hnvelruklp5x8gjkr4yhql9kd2zwcp9ygyq565xrz2s2flczxcpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzvuq35amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wdaexzmn8v4cxjmrv9ejx2aspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdum2d34c about this today. Running a relay under a hostile regime might be impossible (although apparently Tor is very nearly a silver bullet). But there are other options. Scuttlebutt (Manyverse in particular) has some really nice solutions to this problem — because of how pubs are set up, you can still gossip, even without connecting to the internet, by connecting via LAN (and maybe Bluetooth)?

There are tons of other ways client databases could be shared:

- jsonl exports to a flash drive

- animated QR codes

- I'm sure lots more

I'd love to see/build this eventually to help dissidents in hostile regimes communicate with each other. nostr:nprofile1qqs8d3c64cayj8canmky0jap0c3fekjpzwsthdhx4cthd4my8c5u47spz3mhxue69uhhyumn9ehx7uewwdhkx6tpdsq32amnwvaz7tm9v3jkutnwdaehgu3wd3skueqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujucm4wfex2mn59en8j6gvwlazv , you used to work on SSB, do you have any plans to do something like this?

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Do you think there is any lack of communication means or information exposure in rusia for instance?

Not trying to discourage you but “building software to let people communicate under hostile regimes” may become useless. People under hostile regimes always communicate. They just accept doing nothing.

Unless you are talking about giving them opportunity to see the latest memes, say, about the nations their hostile regime is committing genocide to (:

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The awful truth.

Well, yes, it's illegal to be critical of the government right? Even memes have value, humor is part of satire, which is part of political commentary.

So what are your expectations/goals? Giving people tools for communication in order to solve the problem of oppressing regimes?

Or do you want to let people living under oppressive regimes a bit of happiness in form of memes and let them chill further sponsoring oppressive regimes which will, sooner or later, start wars with their neighbors because oppressive regimes must have wars at some point?

Why not both?

Maybe.

But 1) is most likely useless, given rusia example

And 2) doesn’t seem like something good, does it?

I agree, 2 without 1 is useless. But why give up hope on 1? Christianity (for example) has a long history of enduring hostile regimes and ultimately flipping them.

I’m not giving up hope in that thats why I say that I don’t want to discourage you in trying.

But in case you are happy to not have much exposure to people living under oppressing regimes (btw, I don’t believe in this term, I think people have exactly the govts they want to have) — then I’m sharing my personal experience that it might be useless and those people in fact just like whats going on and 1) is not possible by giving ppl certain freedoms

Ah, I see what you mean, interesting. Possibly true in many cases, but there are aleays minorities and injustice