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Russian state media: if Ukraine doesn't surrender we will murder everyone in Kharkiv, Odesa, Kyiv, etc.

They're just psychopaths who want to murder Ukrainians and steal their land and resources. Killing them first is the only good solution.

https://video.nostr.build/9d73422bec75f5b523706c5db6e148842ed90dc5e928de145f8c5b47a76c56c3.mp4

Just the other day Russians published video from one of their drones showing how they're using multiple-rocket-launchers to hit civilian buildings at random in Kherson:

https://video.nostr.build/b42ca1c9d4a90092f34b50be7ab5a619bfe188c6450a23bbd5f77922b0bda9c7.mp4

From the Ukrainian side:

https://video.nostr.build/c0cef4ed6a5c479970049881b20175dc6b6a7ef528d184eabd02821f7b816087.mp4

Yet another example is how Russians recently published video of them murdering a elderly Ukrainian and her goats:

They're openly bragging about how evil they are.

I remember the last time Wladimir replied to me here, complaining about my tone towards Russians. Typical leftist psychopathic bullshit, caring more about the rights of murderous psychopaths than the people they're killing.

Fortunately Ukrainians have been busy destroying the Russian economy instead. They've ever started cutting off Moscow from the electricity grid. Let's hope they succeed. Dead Russians don't pay taxes.

Its very hard to believe there are sane people on Nostr. Thank you for all you do and say!

You don't seem to have a very good grasp on geopolitics or why this war is happening.

The US intends to remain the only global superpower, the hegemon. In order to do that, they must defeat China both economically and militarily. But if they went after China first, all the smaller countries in support of China would make that a very hard fight. So they have to start with the smaller countries and work their way up. The US has perfected "soft power" where they use deception (news media) to trick a nation's people into voting for their preferred candidate. If that doesn't work, they bomb them (or they have Israel do it). This has happened now in about 20 - 30 countries mostly around the middle east, but it (CIA operations) has happened in Ukraine multiple times around elections. After they capture Iran, I believe they will go after India. And then Russia via it's former SSR states, which they have been setting up for a long time. And finally China.

In December, Putin asked Biden if Ukraine would be added to NATO (an anti-Russia MILITARY alliance right on their doorstep!) and Biden told him it was up to Ukraine. Putin took that as meaning that it would. So in February he took actions to put a stop to it. Actions that he threatened to take over and over again throughout the prior 25 years as documented in countless places, red lines which NATO crossed and Russia didn't retaliate to. Finally Russia feeling like a boiled frog took decisive action, even as they didn't want to... they were cornered at that point.

Ukraine didn't do anything wrong, except be dumb about geopolitics, and make decisions that were unwise given the context. Ukraine is just a pawn in a much larger war that you don't seem to be aware of.

Taiwan will probably be a theatre of war in the next decade some time. And they will call it Chinese aggression. And that will be correct, but will represent the less interesting half of why China will feel the need to take control of Taiwan: to hold back the military aggression of the United States.

That is my view, based on lots of data. But I'm not an expert in geopolitics, more of a curious hobbyist. I've heard "Provoked" by Scott Horton is a good book explaining the Russia Ukraine war... but of course you won't read it. You will remain in your world of anger and simple explanations.

I have to admit, it went quickly from “people wanted to be a part of rusia and Ukraine just had to let them go” to “its not about Ukraine but only US”

Thanks a lot for sharing your detailed view. Your views are full of ignorance since you have this privilege to sit back and relax, which is completely normal human behavior. And I’m not here to educate you or change your mind, just offering an opinion on a subject from one who is actually aware of it

I will leave you with 3 facts to use in any way you want:

1. Often times things are much simpler than people want them to be

2. Biden doesn’t kill Ukrainians. pootin doesn’t kill Ukrainian. And even not patrushev is killing Ukrainians. Simple dudes Smirnov and Borisov and alike are actually killing Ukrainians and committing genocide. Most of them haven’t even heard the word “geopolitics”

3. rusians desire to kill every Ukrainian is older than the US

In general, I side with smaller groups against larger groups that oppress them... all the way down to the individual. So I side with Northern Ireland against the UK. I side with Palestine against Israel, with Catalan against Spain, with all the many nations captured by the Russian Empire against the Russian Empire. With Ukraine against Russia (even though I often have practical advice that might sound like I'm on the other side).

> And I believe you think that Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk should be allowed to go to rusia peacefully. And I assume you believe that in this case there could be chances for peace and love between all parties and its bad Ukraine who refused to follow this path. I can’t agree of course but I can understand this point from an outsider.

It seems to me to be a way to end the war, even if the bad guys win. It doesn't seem like you can win. But maybe I'm wrong. If the US, Germany, France, and the UK decide to join the war, then you could win. But of course that would be so much bigger of a war that I think it is also a bad path forward.

> Do you still believe its all about peoples identification and not about imperialists trying to grab with violence anything they are capable of?

Both.

Russia definitely has imperial ambitions. They have said as much. Their main purpose is to capture and control regions that could be effectively used against them, for strategic reasons. That doesn't mean it is "right", but it is good to understand the enemy, to understand why they do what they do. Ukraine is how Moscow was invaded every single time Moscow was invaded throughout history. And controlling the Black Sea, not just for their own access to Sevastopol, but also to deny access to Ukraine, gives them more strategic control of the region. But I'm not on their side. I don't think they are right. And if they can be pushed back then that is a better outcome.

But if the US and NATO use Ukraine to attack Russia, that is a much worse outcome. Maybe that is not what NATO intends, but a lot of people suspect this ambition. Because of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_dilemma nobody is right or wrong on this point, nobody can possibly know the truth, and everybody will act in their own defense. So we cat at least understand why Russia does this, even if we oppose it.

I don't think Russia would take Kyiv or Lviv because that would be like trying to swallow a porcupine. I think it is hard enough to get the people of the Donbass region to see themselves as Russians and not as oppressed Ukrainians.

> It seems to me to be a way to end the war, even if the bad guys win. It doesn't seem like you can win.

So you think that giving away Luhansk, Donetsk and Crimea to rusia is a to long term stable peace right? So please answer then where are Zaporizhya and Kherson at least in this equation then? What makes you think appeasing aggressor THIS TIME is different?

I tell you more though, you are not alone in this thinking. A lot of Ukrainians thought that losing Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk is fine between 2016 and 2022. And they were actually on their own. And where did it lead us? Do you truly believe that its something wrong done by Ukrainians happened in 2022 that triggered full scale invasion and not just rusia felt they are ready another time

What makes you think they would like to stop if each time their aggression is rewarded?

Security dilemma is complete shit. You say things I don’t like, it means that you are in some way a threat to me, then it should be justified if I kill you just for you to not make it first in theory in a distant future? Makes no sense and eventually it means only one person on the planet must survive. And the answer to that are international laws. Which of course are not perfect, but the best we have today

Just some facts from the ground FYI: rusian language at school and orthodoxes at churches were completely fine and were the majority across Ukraine until the full scale invasion

After 2022 yes those started slowly to get away both from top by govt and bottom by average ppl in their 20s, 30s and 40s starting speaking Ukrainian at home even though they dont consider it to be their native language and moving their wedding rings from right hand to the left - just to be less similar to rusians

So if you aim for the truth, remove those propaganda point on language an church from the equation

My last question to you after which I think it should be clear either for you or me where each other stands

So you think that small groups should be allowed to “request autonomy” at any point in time. I can understand it (if you are outside of those groups)

And I believe you think that Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk should be allowed to go to rusia peacefully. And I assume you believe that in this case there could be chances for peace and love between all parties and its bad Ukraine who refused to follow this path. I can’t agree of course but I can understand this point from an outsider.

But now rusians are claiming for Zaporizhya and Kherson at least and would claim for Kharhkiv and Kyiv too if they would not be killed

Do you still believe its all about peoples identification and not about imperialists trying to grab with violence anything they are capable of?

Yeah, thats why the incestigation should be started from 2004 or even earlier. There is no more to all of that than clickbait headlines

In case you want a little bit more real exposure to Ukraine history including the modern one and you have time to mess up with translations, check this channel for instance where Ukrainian (rusian speaking, made in USSR) historian speaks to rusians in char roulette

You will get a lot of simple but enlightening insights into how things actually were and are

There is ZERO ground under EVERY rusian propaganda claim except for peoples (Ukrainian people who allowed it in the first place) ignorance

First of all, I hope its just a typo and not intentional silent misinformation and you wanted to say 2014 instead of 2004

Second, if you trace the events from the beginning of 2014 (but its rather be started from at least 2010 but rather even 2004) — with Crimea invasion and annexation — which is pretty hard to research today I have to admit due to rusian propaganda spam and poor Ukrainian info exposure in english — you would found out that by 2014 eastern rusian speaking regions were the richest, the most subsidized by central govt and their interests were by far more important than those from central and western parts of Ukraine, so all those claims that rusian speaking people were oppressed are completely insane to me as a rusian speaking person living in the closest big Ukrainian city to the rusian border, I still cant figure out how that propaganda sticked in so quickly and doe so long

Third, if you actually find out who were at the roots of those “requests” you can only see rusians intel spies with moscow residence who know nothing about donbas who actually think Donbas is a city , not a region

And the most important. Even if some want a change against international laws (remember that opressions rusians in Ukraine can always leave Ukraine and go to rusia because rusians have a county rusia federation and there is no nation like DPR/LPR). AND if it is allowed silently to be enforced by violence, then what in the world can keep me from coming to your house, kicking you out by force and claiming your home is mine now caused I like it and spend 15 minutes there?

Is this the world YOU want to live in?

You know, there is a single extremely simple step for rusians to be safe - just withdraw their own army from foreign countries and they will be ultra safe.

So why would you wish them would they intentionally do not want?

So the US/German/France/Britain have told Ukraine they are now allowed to strike deep into Russia, no more restrictions on the use of Western supplied missiles.

In any normal situation, if country A and B are at war with each other, and countries C, D, and E supply weapons to country A, country B does not retaliate aginst countries C, D and E. That is, supplying weapons isn't the same thing as waging war. Normally weapons suppliers would not put any restrictions in place (except maybe "don't fire these at me!")

And Western news would have you believe this about Ukraine and Russia. That Germany, France, Britain and the US are just supplying weapons.

But most people already know this is a stretch. We read about the CIA bases along the Russian border in the NY Times. We have heard about targetting assistance from the West. We know that Ukraine and NATO have been tight since the 1990s, doing military drills together all this time, practicing to fight Russia. We know there are boots on the ground in unofficial capacity. And the economic sanctions are also a form of war. Russia knows all this and more.

The West giving Ukraine permission to make long-range strikes into Russia with their weapons is just another escalatory step. It doesn't mean we will soon see Russia striking into other Western nations. I think Russia will retaliate in a different way (I have no specific prediction). But escalation has a way of getting out of control, and every escalatory step is dangerous.

I suspect Russia has retaliated to previous escalation by covertly supporting Ansar Allah in Yemen via Iran. How else would the poorest people in the world have hypersonics to fire at Ben Gurion airport? Russia threatened this, the West ignored it, and Russia seems to have kept their word.

If you think claim allowing to use already sent weapon at full capacity is escalation then you mean that sending weapon to Ukraine is escalation then you think that helping Ukraine to defend against international law breaches and Budapest memorandum is an escalation then you think that allowing huge superpower to completely wipe out small nation just because they don’t submit to every word - is the only way to “deescalation”

Cool logic, I hope you don’t change your mind in case same things apply to you directly or to those you know and care about

The harsh truth is, every killed rusian and every mean that makes it possible, every dollar this country potentially loses - IS deescalation.

Lol, great numbers. A couple of hundred children were killed by a single bomb in Mariupol in 2022

Idk who is “Ukraine governme” but as always nostr censorshipresistennensnsns rules 💪

I'm sorry but it's not like that. You are repeating European, English and Ukrainian propaganda. They are points of view. The truth is always in the middle. Maidan's coup in 2014 was piloted by viktoria nuland who was there in the square. Ukraine from that moment became a Nazi state and armed for all those years in anti-Russian function and then lashed out after a few years against Russia. Even Merkel admitted it in her last book. Europe is now Nazi. France, England and Germany are the next to fall after Ukraine. The Russians are your brothers but the British have convinced you that they are your enemies. Russia cannot be destroyed. Napoleon tried us, Hitler tried us. No one has ever taken Moscow. You think Zelensky can do it. You should turn against him and hang him in the square after all your children and friends that he sent to die for a war already lost at the start. Wasn't it better to have negotiations in 22 in Istanbul with Russia? Wouldn't you have avoided millions of dead Ukrainians? Deaths for whom? For Biden and Boris Johnson? Never trust the English my friend. I speak to you as Italian. Here is a pro-Ukrainian and anti-Russian propaganda that is scary. But people are understanding...we're not going to die for vonderlayen or macron. Unfortunately you trusted each other! By now, even the United States has abandoned it. Honor to all the innocent Ukrainians who died in these years. Unfortunately, trusting the English makes this bad end

And this is what nostr community is building for — to allow such pieces of shit to be “censorship resistant”. Thanks God I decided to stop spending my time on this project early

So maybe you could help me classify if my opinion on rusians can be treated as rusophobic or should be called something else?

I’m an eastern Ukrainian and since 2015 I realize that every single rusian is just an imperialistic shitshow that doesn’t think that I’m living in a separate country and I must follow every word pootin says

Since 2022 they are destroying my home town with hundreds of drones and tens of ballistic missiles dayli

I realize that if they stop, the war stops. If we stop, we are slaves and most of us are dead or imprisoned somewhere in siberia for the rest of our lives

I realize that there are no good rusians because me, my relatives and friensa have real connections in rusia who tell us how and why we must to obey if we want to live

I realize that if a person lives inside rusia that actively help killing ME

I realize that even if a person lives outside of rusia for decades but still watches rusia tv or send money to their families there they passively try to kill ME

I realize it can ONLY stop if currently known rusia stops to exist and EVERY person holding rusian passport (at least) gets severely punished for imperialistic mindset in 21 century — this is the only way for me to KEEP EXISTING (I can’t call it normal life anymore)

Am I rusophobic? Since this words seems to have some negative context it seems to me. And if I want positive context, what should **I** do?

P.S. curious “here is Europe” - where is it?