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I dream of a onboarding experience to NOSTR where newbies don't see any posts about Bitcoin.

My wish is that the only way people learn about Bitcoin is a "weird lightning button" under the posts.

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My wish is that they learned about Bitcoin before coming to Nostr

why not the opposite?

They will value Nostr more if they get Bitcoin first.

If they understand Bitcoin first, they will understand/value the decentralized nature of Nostr more, because they will understand that governments and centralized platforms might not have their best interests in mind.

They will never value a solution to a problem they don't know they have

I get your sentiment, thank you.

In my opinion one can value decentralisation, peer2peer and signal-over-noise without the need to understand money/bitcoin.

They will value it more when they realize the other systems were actively working against them and lying to them.

That's how I see it.

I've felt the pain they can produce and that's why I appreciate Bitcoin and Nostr a lot more.

It's literally helping people regain their freedom.

NOSTR and BTC adoption happens when we can explain the benefits without the need to explain the old, broken FIAT world.

I am still trying myself out to find good explanations, its not smooth yet.

That's the thing: you're trying to explain solutions, not benefits..

Idk, 4 years of hardly getting people into Bitcoin or Nostr has me a bit disappointed in people I guess..

Nostr actively sabotages itself and Bitcoin

But the next 4 years should be better, now that people are waking up to the problem

There might be answers in "Time and The Soul," by Jacob Needleman.

Thank you, might check it out later

You're welcome.

I wish I did

You're still fresh?

Mostly people who come here come because of bitcoin. Thats how you discover nostr. But yeah bitcoin shouldnt be the main subject as some freakish cult. It should be one of the stuff that just makes this place great... unfortunately... everyone keeps bitching about sats and how much each sat that it just looks ridiculous πŸ™„ πŸ˜’ πŸ˜‘

Bitcoin is just money, it's a medium, nothing more.

For me i see everything as a fiat lock.

Of its somewhat stable and doesnt have a collapse visible soon i lock my income in it. I invest in small stuff as watches, gold, bitcoin. Im not a bitcoin fanatic but you never know. Im tech loving person so I wish one day it will all be crypto... but my life isnt going to be that much longer so I have to think about now how to safely ensure my end days will be chilled. 🀣✨️ I dont have kids so watching to retire by buying some sweet island somewhere to die on. πŸ€£πŸ˜’πŸ˜Žβœ¨οΈ

Why do you need to buy the island, there is many islands to die on without the need to own them ;-)

Also, what makes you think that your life isn't going to be that much longer?

I have a plan for that island after my death. Thats why. 🫣πŸ₯³βœ¨οΈ I want to build a sanctuary ... its all in my head. When I leave this planet I want to leave some kind of legacy to help others. My existence may be selfish but my death will be not... I also want to buy my old family house back amd turn it into an orphanage.... I have plans... I just dont talk much about them... I am now in a process of envisioning it and manifesting the way to it... I still have time... I aint that old... πŸ₯³βœ¨οΈ

What if by living a "selfish" life you leave a legacy behind? :-)

Maybe your life becomes a sanctuary?

Exciting to read that you are in the process of vision and manifestation.

To whom? If i die my life is no more... no sanctuary to go to... my loife is fine πŸ™‚ I just want to do more and leave something behind...

YES, that's very human/natural and it's beautiful!

i guess the point i wanted to make is:

eventually all sanctuaries, temples, stories and ideas fade away.

so we can also just be a sanctuary/story right now in this moment ❀️

Oh believe me my life is one of a hell interesting story... I may sit down and write a book... its still happening as we speak and its still fun AF... specially my expenses they are the most fun part of it atm. 🀣🀣🀣🀣πŸ₯³πŸ₯³πŸ₯³πŸ₯³βœ¨οΈβœ¨οΈβœ¨οΈβœ¨οΈ

i love it, you could publish the book on fanfares.io

I was thinking to write it and sell it to televisa presenta the plot is perfect for soap opera. 🧼 πŸ₯³βœ¨οΈ

I love it πŸ˜‚

i'm curious about your expenses... πŸ˜…

Believe you don't.. its my everyday problems that I deal with i dont usually share those kind of stuff online. Just now few days ago my fucking water pump died AGAIN! due to wonderful stable electricity my country offers. 🀣πŸ₯³

I accidentally reposted because I thought you were talking about a client with no lightning integration, not a client that integrates lightning but blocks Bitcoin discussion

It is insanely embarrassing for nostr how there are no lightning-free, crypto-free clients (and even more embarrassing that almost none are even just lightning-free)

I see zaps as an integral part of communication, we humans want to give feedback.

For sure there are and will be clients which block topics (today already you can mute certain words). I didn’t mean it that way, more like: promote more other topics/follower lists.

Atm onboarding looks like this: you like bitcoin right? RIGHT??

Lightning is embarrassing and having no lightning-free crypto-free clients is embarrassing, there's no other way to slice it

You show nostr to someone, you embarrass nostr because it's an embarrassing thing when it shows itself

Glad you are here nevertheless

You too, only real ones look past the issues and stay here

nostr:npub1plstrz6dhu8q4fq0e4rjpxe2fxe5x87y2w6xpm70gh9qh5tt66kqkgkx8j has no zaps.

If you use bluesky mastodon or threads you can also log in with those profiles, all on the same app, you can look at the feeds individually or have them mixed together.

And when you upload media or post a note you can upload once to all 4 of them.

Hmm, I hate that app because it seems to prefer Bluesky where I'm banned over nostr, but maybe I should stop hating it and recommend it for people that are put off nostr by the crypto stuff

There's also some monero clients that I'm pretty sure don't have lightning but I haven't used any of them