How do you mean disappoint?

I did this a few months ago.

I went all the way back to middle school friends.

NPCs. All of them.

Much better off with just my g/f and kid.

I just had a young (30) cousin tell me hes going to quit his apprenticeship and move back in with his parents.

he apparently has no drive, no interests, no motivation to create anything.

its just too hard to find his own way and he's going to quit.

disappointing and frankly pretty pathetic.

but even still, a mature person leaves the door open.

maybe we can help them later.

They call me when they need me, and I'm trying so hard, or maybe not so hard to come to the same conclusion you have. It's starting to workout pretty good for me. They haven't needed me that much lately.

I'm open for old friends and family, but I do recognize that I don't know the motherfuckers like that any more. So I'm very careful.

Thanks for the space to vent, be careful, and have a great one. Much peace !

Only if your wife is awesome. Otherwise, just stick to dogs and maybe some goats, cuz they're both super fun.

54, never married, no kids, lots of animals and land in the mountains and nothing but peace and joy and adventure.

Nothing mainstream has ever worked for me. I do everything like nobody does.