I hear you. Still, most Americans grow up loving life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It’s instilled in us at a young age. Sure, they may follow obscene orders if they feel it is indirectly fulfilling that end, in the case of a foreign war for example. But going against one’s fellow citizens is quite another matter. I know some good men in uniform who certainly would not follow such orders. The question is how many would resist, and at what point

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I hear you and I too want to believe that the good in us would prevail if we were presented with those options. I’m afraid history has shown us otherwise.

True. Doesn’t today’s open information ecosystem change that calculus, though, somewhat?

Maybe, but I would expect another covert method of punishment to replace it.

I agree with you Alan,

In my small town, my sons raised hell racing their cars around, and they’ve become friends with most of the police force over coffees at the local 24h gas station. I can say with certainty that the local police where I live would throw away their badges if that came to pass. I have even heard several of them say this out loud.

I don’t doubt a sizeable percentage would comply, but areas with high levels of gun ownership and concealed carry permit holders would rebuke such an advance.

How do you mean? They CURRENTLY enforce thousands of laws and regulations that infringe on the rights, property and even the physical integrity of US citizens. They will literally murder you for your taxes, for your guns, or for selling cigarettes without a license.

Sometimes even when there are doubts about the very constitutionality of those laws and regulations -- not that anything the SCOTUS says carries any weight anymore anyway...

But even if you adhere to the definition of "constitutional" as "SCOTUS says so". All it will take is SCOTUS (i.e., the Government) to say so.