The guys have the power to enforce it, the guys show you how they will do it, the guys are not trust worthy, but you still think is not happening?
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If i put a gun to your head and said you die or figure out a way to make a private bitcoin transaction you couldn't figure out a way to do it?
No, the only thing i can do is ''wash the history of that'' but private bitcoin transactions can't be done right now and if is im not aware, but you will have a way soon, but that doesn't grant that people will adopt that tool, because as i see bitcoiners think anything that isn't bitcoin is a shitcoin so i don't most will comply. But you will will not be transacting bitcoin, you will move that bitcoin with another coin...
So if i buy bitcoin with cash and then broadcast a transaction over tor what is that?
The transaction is tracked the same, do you call that an anon transaction? I don't
I do call it an anon transaction. How would you deanon me or link me to amy other payment?
But is not because you have non kyc that the transaction is untrackble, you will see the same on blockchain, i think you are a little bit confused here, we are talking about different things, to make bitcoin move untrackble you need to mint it on DarkFI, and then you can transact dBTC in a untrackble way
You think if i make a payment like this on bitcoin im gonna have trouble with the government? Thats the only think i would care about as to anonymity. Ik there are technical differences in how much info im leaking but realistically does the average person need more anonymity that what i discribed ?
Of course you can have, because what you said don't grant you 100% anonimity, but what i explained to you that you can do with darkFI yes, and thats a big difference..
It's not that easy to grant 100% and that doesnt even exists..
The thing is using what have the best odds, why be in the middle?
My reason is i think bitcoin is the shelling point for crypto. Thats why we have the 4 year cycles and ngu.
bitcoin is worthless in the conditions we are talking
doesnt worth nothing i mean
Yeah idk i think if crypto and exchanges where banned bitcoin would be find because there would be no kyc info.
It would be useless the same, why people would choose to use an option that have bigger risks than other options available?
Because of the shelling point. Do you recognize the importance of that?
I cant think of any way you could be deanonomized
Me no, maybe a state can, maybe not, it depends on conditions that you dont control
like what you can do with wBTC on ETH
Can't I just send a transaction that has no kyc associated with it?
Exactly my point. You can even do a few swaps to disassociate from your stack
If you do it regularly, is a matter of time until the radar of the system catch who owns that UTXO
not really
if you do proper UTXO management it won't be linked to any BTC purchase info
but if you're buying stuff and having it mailed to you or otherwise linking those UTXOs to yourself,
AND you are under targeted surveillance,
they just have to contact one of your exchange counterparties to dox the entire UTXO cluster.
as you say, its pretty fragile privacy.
That's a kind of thing that someone that is serious about what he's doing don't even take as an option, if you want to be ready to a dystopian future, the kind of tools that are valuable is totally different that if you are preparing to a world where you expect to improve for better, water and food is the most valuable thing, a safe home is second, than gun's to protect what you produce and what you have is the third, than you need to be in the right place, surrounded by people that think like you, because running is not an option, that's what weak people do, and sooner or later you get cough like John was in Barcelona, and he was sharp as fuck, but he didn't go underground if you know what i mean, then gold because it's here for 6000 years and in a ''great reset'' environment digital is not an option, than military grade routers and radios, that you can build to communicate with the like minded ones...
Expect the best, but be ready for the worst, is better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war...
Generational wealth is build with this bases, not a miraculous asset that fix everything like this dumbfucks think, no one from the top 1% thinks different than me in what they need to have, than vanilla VCs think they are at my level kkkkk
It's not by case that this was the year that more bunkers were sold than anytime on history, i still don't have mine, but soon i will...
Yeah, but that doesnt's make it untrackable. The transaction still trackable, what is untrackable is who owns that UTXO, we are not talking about the same thing...