> But we can still eat them, no?

why are you asking me? You’re a person, you have to decide for yourself.

I’m “biased” cuz I’m asian and asian families have tended to use less meat anyways. Then, my dad became a vegetarian when I was 8, and my mom did too. He later expanded it to be vegan. 🥑

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Plants and bacteria are also alive.

Do you think it’s possible to eat animals or use them for labor without being cruel to them?

oh yeah, this is what the pastor’s wife said to me when I was in … 9th grade.

The main thing to remember is - industrial scale slaughterhouses connected to the restaurant industries (esp. national and international chain restaurants).

Interesting history moment:

When The Jungle was published, consumers abandoned commercial meat en masse out of righteous disgust. They didn’t become vegetarians, though; they turned to their local farmers, who they trusted and knew were raising and killing animals more humanely.

In response to this, big meat got the government to pass a bunch of laws making it impossible to sell farm-slaughtered meat. It’s still extremely difficult to this day.

We have regulatory capture to thank for the way things are. I’m glad to see things are changing thanks to the growing food freedom movement and distrust in government.

this makes me rethink the phrase “money is the root of all evil” to something like, the desire/drive to be rich at the expense of other things is the root of all evil. ☹️

whatever way people have of reducing the suffering of animals is good. It could be opting out completely and being vegetarian/vegan, or drastically reducing or eliminating red meat, or only getting meat from smaller, local farms.