From what I understand wavlake is actually more of a centralized system. They are using podcastindex.org and Adam Curry helped get wavlake on the map because wavlake is using RSS and he was able to play music from them in a podcast. And it's also thanks to podcasting 2.0 who invented the wallet switching technology. There are artists who self host on our own websites and have our own nodes/wallets for Bitcoin and the closest we get to a centralized system is podcastindex being the directory for all the apps out there. All the apps that people can listen to wavlake artists in. But you can't listen to self hosted artists on wavlake. It's one way. And on wavlake you have to agree to wavlake terms(which aren't bad) but they are still like a middle man in this way. If people boost/zap our self hosted songs, the splits are visible how much to who right in our feed for all to see. Trasnparent. Wavlake just goes to wavlake, then they split it internally, not in the open. That might be fine. Maybe it has to do with how their wallets work. But I'd rather not create another industry to be controlled by people at the top. Terms and conditions can change and if they create a system you end up relying on and then they tell you they are taking more fees, you have to agree cuz everyone's already built around this centralized system. We want to create a community of people who value your music by making top quality music and people will decide for themselves how much it's worth. Just some of my scatterbrained thoughts on the subject 😁 - TJ
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Discussion
Not your keys, not your coins
Not your feed, not your terms
Agreed. I just don't like the boycotting of WL hosted artists by some music shows. Talk openly and use persuation. Boycotting is counter productive.
Yeah this sounds like something the Montgomery City Lines would have been saying in 1956. After all, when has a boycott ever brought attention to an issue? When has it ever been a useful tool for a small, marginalized minority who is otherwise ignored or laughed off to make a statement?
They can boycott decentralized music on their own player, but a music show can't return the favor? Please.
What use is it to talk openly to deaf ears? We've been openly discussing this for over three years and we only get tut tut patronizing reactions. But we will carry on regardless, as per your advice.
It hurts the artists, who can easily be approached, I just don't think this is the right strategy.
When try to discuss this, I am accused of being a paid shill.
Many artists have self-hosted after wanting to be featured on shows, so you can't pretend it's not effective.
Artists are not being "hurt" by this. In fact, many are being helped a great deal. It has been far more effective than the repeated ongoing attempts at persuasion via thumb-generated internet text. But being online we can't help ourselves, I'm just as guilty as anyone of misunderstanding others and being misunderstood myself in text-based debate.
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B4TS and Homegrown Hits are the only two shows that actively highlight music outside of wavlake. What a shitty thing we’ve built if these two rss feeds threaten to derail this new “industry”.
There are other options besides wavlake and self-hosting. You can host your music on https://rssblue.com/, or Podhome.fm
Also https://musicsideproject.com/ has the ability to interface with Bunny CDN for extremely cheap hosting that can be paid for with sats.
What’s the cost for your music hosting plan for Podhome and a link? I want to add it to my list of alternatives on MSP. Self hosting isn’t for everyone, so I like them to know their options.
https://podhome.fm/ is $15.99 a month, unlimited everything.
I’m a shill for Podhome, been with them for over a year. Really great service. $15.99/month
I just added them as an alternative on my Music Side Project page. I understand self hosting isn’t for everyone, so after they’ve considered what MSP can do for them, I want them to know there’s other ways to get their music out there that may better serve the interests. My heart is mainly that people are able to make informed decisions.
That’s powerful man. I’m with you.
“paid shill” is the primary counter argument of the midwit.
excellent points, TJ!