This is a fascinating conversation that challenged many of my established perspectives. One of your best, nostr:npub14mcddvsjsflnhgw7vxykz0ndfqj0rq04v7cjq5nnc95ftld0pv3shcfrlx.

https://fountain.fm/episode/LEuIMcXqZ47GnBrgsiYk

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