All I'm saying is to do a full blown music festival with all the suppliers, staff people involved etc running on bitcoin only and inviting no coiners who will be given sats on entry is a few years off at least. The conferences are awesome but it only attracts people who are already bitcoiners. It would be great to see a cultural event (which would attract non bitcoiners) which would just happen to use bitcoin & nostr for everything. Then no-coiners could see it work in action. I think the zapping of an artist on stage is the most compelling thing for non bitcoiners as that can't be achieved with credit cards unlike regular merchant payments