Guys…. Where are you living? Pedestrian crossings are typically programmable - there are municipal engineers whose entire job is pedestrian systems.

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Yeah, automotive traffic flow is the priority. There are two crosswalks in my neighbourhood that are unreasonably long.

Traffic control is the most statistically driven type of engineering. All my type A pals were drawn to it.

Municipalities regularly receive request to review the length of crossing signals - give it a try! Depending on where you live, you might get a really responsive answer!

Nope. Pedestrian foot traffic needs to be completely separated from vehicular traffic. I utterly detest all city infrastructure where you only have one level of mixed traffic.

Formerly NYC. Traveled to many cities, more than most.

I loathe pedestrians. GTFO roads. Roads are for vehicles. It's only getting worse with phones and noise-cancelling headphones.

Wow! I totally disagree with you Beaves. šŸ’œ before there was gridlocks downtown, there were walkable streets.

You've never seen early video of horse carts in cities, then...

Chaos, but, usually at a more human pace, except if a horse looks and you get runded over.

I know I have terrible opinions. šŸ˜ŽšŸ¤£

šŸ˜‚ it’s ok. NYC traffic has likely always been problematic.

I do live in one of the oldest cities in North America…. Our roads are paved logging routes, and I do have a lot of experience in this particular field… I also STILL yield to horses on trails and paths as is the hierarchy of yielding.

I like the more nuanced take you had about ā€œnot sharing roadsā€, but I’m for pedestrian focused transportation engineering. šŸ¤

I'm all for pedestrians having separated transportation infrastructure. But... Ideally... I would not have humans living in cities. Towns and villages at most. Cities are not good for humans, IMO.

I mean, no arguments here. Our largest city is about ~250K. Next largest? 30K and 7 hours away.

But you might not like this… the smaller the municipality the MORE focused on pedestrian traffic they should be.

I'm mostly OK with that, with the exception of main thoroughfares, especially for early morning truck deliveries, though, I do see more small communities moving to external parking for cars outside of centers. Even some cities are trying this (like NYC with "congestion pricing," but that's more of a money grab than trying to do anything positive), but I'm fairly convinced that above a certain density, humanity just gets exponentially worse.