Social recovery, cloud partial key-material will help this.

Hardware is not practical for Nostr, the signing happens too often on every interaction.

Imagine if you'd use hardware for every zap 🙃

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This is definitely true

I think some kind of yubikey like plugged into my PC would be a pretty reasonable signer

Would it be possible to use a passkey with biometrics? Everyone is already accustomed to Face ID and fingerprint verification. If that were available to sign and broadcast notes, it would eliminate the need to paste nsecs into every mobile app.

How is this not already solved with amber?

Is Amber available for iOS?

Nope. But I'm not sure why someone who is using iOS would care about privacy.

Or security

Not a helpful reply, thanks for playing.

iOS is better than standard android tho.

Is it? How so? Genuine question.

Nowser kinda is right?

Never heard of it. I’m looking for something OS-native.

It’s made by the same person who made nostrmo… dashu

https://testflight.apple.com/join/b4zVVxaM Nowser

Checking it out, thanks!

I think it’s more of a bunker? Idk not really user friendly yet? I might just be stupid tho?

LOL, yeah. The UI makes no sense. Going to have to read up on this. The only way this idea works at scale is if it can authenticate and sign for apps, not just websites. So that’s probably going to take some client-side integration.

It’s real early beta still I think n yeah lots needs to be done yet right?

There’s this too really new to

https://www.frostr.org/

I think it work similar to Spring Browser on Android. The browser has the nip-07 extension built in?

But could you use it as a remote signer? Still trying to figure out how to use it as nip-46 bunker. The github page says it should work as such on iOS!?

Nothing works with native apps, only mobile websites, as far as I’ve seen.

Just tried this with nostrudel. It works! So we have our own amber solution now 💪

But it’s just inside the app it seems…

Give us something that works with apps at the OS level!

That would be amazing!

So it’s like a browser?

Yes

No wonder I’m having so many issues lol

You’re trying to link it to an app?

Idk what I was really doing lol

😂😂

Nobody does.

For realz 🤣🤣🤣

Convoluted for a key you use on your phone a lot

Yubikeys have NFC and USB-C support

Doesn’t a phone count as hardware?

2fa with simple convenient pin, fingerprint, face confirmation

Hardware is practical. It just needs an internet connection, firewalled to a relay and websocket only connection, from where it can act as a home bunker

this already exists, just needs polishing up

That's great for a hand full of people.

I actually kinda prefer to be able to have full control of signing everything when using nostrudel with nostore…

Hybrid approach would work

Yea social recovery seems to be the way. Probably will take some time to figure that out

Totally get why hardware’s a no go here. Zapping’s supposed to be quick and painless, not a where’s my USB? scavenger hunt!

What are the problems that arise from a compromised nostr private key?

1. Someone can impersonate you (for a while)

2. You have to rebuild your entire social network graph across all apps

3. You lose whatever funds you have in your associated wallet

4. If you used your keypair to create private notes for yourself, they become non-private

Anything else?

App specific keys and some way to link and unlink them with each other.