literally the only relays i'm seeing in my logs that actually do auth properly

nostr1.com

nostr:npub10npj3gydmv40m70ehemmal6vsdyfl7tewgvz043g54p0x23y0s8qzztl5h you legit bruv

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Needed this. Ty. Learning

there are a few others that are doing both relay info and auth that are asking for it, but it's a pretty thin field, at the end of this run right now i fully expect less than 50 relays that are both nip-11 and nip-42 compliant

and not one of them so far has asked for auth, without actually requiring it to actually use the relay, i am authing with my key and if i'm not a customer, i get no data

so this myth that many of the rockstar devs have about auth "doxxing yourself" are completely inflating the situation

nobody thinks of that as a way to gather intelligence, amazing, but true.

yes, better to have no auth required and just count the number of times you get npubs in the requests

LIKE I HAVE BEEN SAYING

the number of relays on people's lists that are invalid, don't resolve, have expired or wrong TLS certs, is amazing, truly

and then of those that remain, almost none actually send out a valid nip-11 relay information document

i have written this spider code now so that as it finds invalid, malformed, non resolving etc relay addresses, it deletes them from the list, after quite an extensive process of sanitizing these addresses

the number of relays that actually exist is melting away in front of my eyes, i'm wondering how many wil be left by the time it's finished iterating the 2000 or so

its incredible, when i open gossip, watching it use my entire set of cpu cores and fans to maximim, and all its doing is attempting to connect to long gone insane relays.. what a fucking mess. someone should build a relay list disrespector bot. 😂

yes but there's no way to tell users there is something wrong!!!

oof... i wish i could focus more on this stuff but i have some time now, will have something that actually works and is simple and works on everything for plain old simple instant messaging like IRC days

i try 😁🎁

interesting stats about the nip11.. no wonder clients hate relays if most dont even bother setting anything useful in those fields.

yeah, i thought the nip-42 situation was bad but clearly this is downstream from the nip-11 situation

it's how the relays are coded too - #realy has a set of default values that appear according to configuration... khatru sorta had some beginnings of this kind of thing iirc, but not fully fleshed out