When is the war won?

Military, economic and whatever victories don't matter much.

It is won when the citizens of the enemy no longer defend their own government. For whatever reasons. In some cases due to loss of health due to drug use, in some cases due to religious shift away from own government, in some cases due to uniting with someone strong against "the biggest enemy" while own government is viewed as weak and stupid.

I may be wrong. But if I am right, I am very happy about all the losses, wins, and shifts of power. Screw the weak and stupid.

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Do Americans really even support the US?

I don't think US, nor americans, nor US government are under any threat from anyone.

Idk man the US sucks

Maybe

Hmmm. Now that China tariffs are essentially cancelled so soon, maybe this was not a case of keeping enemies the closiest. I was wrong.

One thing achieved is that 10% tariff is imposed for the entire world, while the folks of the entire world celebrate a victory against the stupid Trump.

There must be something else too, but I am not sure what that is.

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