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Ivo 10mo ago

Yes, I tried them also the transfer to Iban, from Malta bank to my bg Iban is instant using sepa instant

It says "pre-order now" and there's a monthly cost associated with it, right? How do I use the card right now?

I am a pre-tester visa debit nostr:nprofile1qqstpkv7ykr7fe99wxh84ef5xr5h5g3xex3d2mrgk39hz4m0n3ad93qm0nzvx ⚡️

Yes! Please signup at bringin.xyz/cards

Bringin app android with NWC Alby hub, don't works

Pushing an update today that should fix this. Thanks for reporting 🙏

Hey! Button says "preorder". If I pay for it, will I get it right away or do I need to wait?

"Access will provided on Feb 20th." - could you please clarify?

The beta user is testing the cards, but some bugs still need to be ironed out. We want to give access to a much more stable version. But if you need early access, that can be provided. No problem.

Beta users are***

calle 10mo ago 💬 1

It's the 20th today, will that work?

Update is pushed, please update the app to latest and try again.

Let us know if you still face the issue.

Before I could enter my NWC connection string without having to make an account first, but now it is mandatory to make an account first.

I wanted to see the features available before making a KYC account, so I'll forgo the trial for now, sorry.

Thanks anyway 🙏

You can create an account with simply email and password. No KYC required. You will have to do KYV only to enable Euro.

Oh ok, perfect! Thank you so much 🙏🫂🎨

Yes https://bringin.xyz/cards/ with JOKHODL

Totally Human Writer 10mo ago

Yes. I've used it several times on phyical POS terminals.

It links to Google Pay seemlessly.

Excellent solution for Europeans!

It says "pre-order now" - am I doing it wrong?

I assume there is a KYC procedure to receive the Visa debit card or IBAN, right?

yes it is🤜⚡️🤛

calle 10mo ago 💬 1

How do I get this thing?

with https://spend.bringin.xyz/signup?affiliate=JOKHODL

https://bringin.xyz/cards/

⚡️10% off annual card subscription

⚡️10% off transaction fees for 3 months

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The debit card is still "pre-order now". Am I doing it wrong?

you can order yours🤜⚡️🤛🤝 nostr:nprofile1qqstpkv7ykr7fe99wxh84ef5xr5h5g3xex3d2mrgk39hz4m0n3ad93qm0nzvx

x 10mo ago

and of course it's KYC

On the Android app at the moment it doesn't let me connect my Alby hub with NWC, but it seems to be a problem with Alby's relay

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I don't understand why Revolut doesn't offer a service like this... 🤔

It would be enough to add the possibility of connecting your Bitcoin wallet and that's it.

🟠 isolabellart 10mo ago 💬 2

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Guys, PLEASE, stop promoting the use of fiat! Bitcoin only.

By going to a merchant with a VISA card is literally invitation to never accept Bitcoin. We should the way around, not going back to fiat.

You are absolutely right, I agree with you, in an ideal world there would be no need for such services.

But if you tell the shopkeeper that the Bitcoins he accepts he can spend in fiat, I think he is also more enticed to accept them as a form of savings.

It blows my mind how fast people forget why we are here... to fuck all those intermediaries.

Yet people are still going back to fiat LOL

Again, I agree with you but the adoption of Bitcoin needs a transitional period where people have the opportunity to use both currencies, it is not all black and white, unfortunately we are still at the stage of shades of gray.

After 15 years of Bitcoinlandia is time to take drastic measures and stop using Fiat.

That "gray" period was over once LN came out.

Nowadays we have so many tools, solutions, wallet apps etc that there's NO EXCUSE not to accept Bitcoin as a merchant.

Yet we have users that go to the merchant with a fucking VISA card and then complain why there are not so many shops accepting BTC.

LOL don't you see the stupid paradigm?

You will never escape from the fiat slavery if you never cut the crap and say enough is enough.

You are right, I am still a slave to the mortgage I have to pay on my house, a slave to a job in fiat that takes time away from my paintings which fortunately I am able to sell in bitcoin, but unfortunately I cannot go all in on bitcoin, I have people for whom I am responsible to whom I will leave my savings in bitcoin though.

More than that I cannot do.

Silberengel 10mo ago

If you accept Bitcoin, you are faced with the decision to price in Bitcoin or your local fiat (or some other fiat). If you price in Bitcoin, the potential mid-term upside is huge, but the short-term downside can wipe you out and your customers will be angry at what they view as inflated prices. Also, your prices will be highly volatile against the currency that your customers hold.

You also need to have a wide profit margin to even benefit from Bitcoin transactions because your suppliers probably won't take it, so you have to cover the conversion cost. And then there's the task risk and compliance costs.

Yeah, really not easy. Probably lose money with it.

Silberengel 10mo ago

*tax risk

I really don't give a shit about taxes because I do not pay taxes.

Only slaves pay taxes.

Rand 10mo ago

food, utilities, etc? i don't know your sit. but taxes are broadbased in most econ..

all that garbage salad words sounds like fiat mindset.

Silberengel 10mo ago

You are not a serious person.

yeah sure, saying that I do not pay taxes it means I am not a "serious person".

1. I am not a person (aka corporation), I am a living man. Living men do not pay taxes.

2. I am always right

Rand 10mo ago

trade offs, but i know sum dudes & 1 Korean lady doing well & have seen a pick uP in %

Beneath The Ink 10mo ago

Yea and the important thing to remember here is that this is so people who are living a Bitcoin standard can still engage with the world without having to jump through a thousand loops.

Eventually more and more shopkeepers will request bitcoin over fiat because they too are running a btc standard. Until then we bitcoiners are just crazy people yelling at store owners for not accepting bitcoin in their stores.

We should build solutions to help shops taking your sats directly not going back to fiat.

Building fiat rails is NOT the solution!

Beneath The Ink 10mo ago

But those already exist, no? We have nostr:npub1musqetp57matzsjcwd2y7tvxe59h85v74pqasnqxk7fhpwazzjpseyv5kr we have btcpay server. Shops simply don't know the power of bitcoin yet, but they are getting there. I think when shops start seeing bitcoiners use Bitcoin right in front of them eventually the curiosity will get them!

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Tauri 10mo ago

For people that already live on a Bitcoin standard, this is the only way at this point where you can actually spend sats in most vendors. Unless you know another.

Ivo 10mo ago

Yes but we need also apple and google pay enabled

Latrica 10mo ago

👀 I’m doing research and testing certain products. I would like to add this to test. How can I get one complimentary for testing? I’m traveling internationally so I can also test it’s uses abroad. Is the digitial card designed to use in-person? For example, I want to buy a pair of shoes in a store. Can I use this at the physical store or is it just for online purchases?

The Daniel 🖖 10mo ago

So this is how they KYC people running Alby nodes.