How often do you encounter an obese person who hasn't been losing weight on carnivore? Also, what do you define as a carnivore?

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Never, but that’s not the point, and it’s a false dichotomy. I was merely pointing out with a hypothetical scenario, that I think it’s silly to villainize carbs and seed oils. A person at a healthy body weight who eats carbs and seed oils will probably, all else being equal, be a healthier person than someone who is obese but abstains from those foods.