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Tried to do this before, it's not nearly as easy since calories give no information about quality and sustainability in the future. Without proper food plan the calories count might be even dangerous. I now prefer to track sugar, that's the worst. Calories go down during carnivore a lot by themselves, but the trick is not to dig into carbs next to it. Preferably none. The detox is short, but insane for trash eaters like me. Not that I suffer, but even forget I shouldn't.

Dakota 1y ago

I would put forth that you are using the carnivore diet as a tool to lower calories. Which is fine.

I never said counting calories is easy, but it is simple. And calories don’t give information about quality, but macros and nutrient profiles do, which should go hand in hand with counting calories. Very few people who track calories effectively are eating chips and candy and drinking soda because they would quickly find themselves at their caloric intake for the day and be left starving. Most people who count calories in practice end up eating whole foods, including lean meats and vegetables, because they are nutrient dense, (relatively) low calorie, and filling.

All of that being said, from a pure weight loss perspective, calorie “quality” doesn’t matter. You can lose weight eating twinkies if you want. You can lose weight being a vegan and eating seed oils too! And it’s probably healthier than being an obese carnivore.

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Dr. Fernando Morales 1y ago

How often do you encounter an obese person who hasn't been losing weight on carnivore? Also, what do you define as a carnivore?

Dakota 1y ago

Never, but that’s not the point, and it’s a false dichotomy. I was merely pointing out with a hypothetical scenario, that I think it’s silly to villainize carbs and seed oils. A person at a healthy body weight who eats carbs and seed oils will probably, all else being equal, be a healthier person than someone who is obese but abstains from those foods.