Conservatives like a big bowl of Socialism with their Capitalism. Democrats like a big bowl of Capitalism with their Socialism. And about every 25 years you can probably interchange the terms any way you like.
Socialism is always the problem.
Discussion
Call ‘em groupers.
Collectivism/Socialism etc seems downstream of those susceptible to Groupthink. Very few people have courage to avoid groupthink comfort.
Groupers get confidence from the group identification of a higher morality. It’s their only path to their entitlements or getting free shit without working. It’s hard to blame them- who wouldn’t want free shit for nothing?
There are those that are allergic to groupthink and call it out right away but sadly it’s not the majority. And who could blame someone for not wanting to speak up and think for yourself - it’s scary?
The biggest or loudest groupers on both sides will have successfully found the most insidious way to trigger the largest groupthink entitlement topic for that time. It’s insidious because it has to be undetectable or banal at first or it won’t grow. It’s insidious because there’s some faint hint of truth on an issue for groupers that’s just enough to make them feel like they’ve done some level of effort to make a connection that’s not obvious. They convince themselves they are smart for making a connection. So being introspective enough to even consider that they might be susceptible to groupthink is just not possible - their thinking is just the right and only way of thinking. And they found a large group that also feels that way so anyone else who thinks differently is just so unimaginably dumb.
They’ll go as far as cutting off friends and family because it threatens their long held belief that they are smart enough not to have to work for truth or a solution. A conversation or kind debate with simple questions is so beneath them. Sadly there’s a strong correlation with physiognomy here as well that shows a physical manifestation of this thinking where they can outsmart calorie accumulation.
You can see how communism killed 100m people. Groupers slowly gain more confidence that violence is the answer instead of considering they might be lazy, unoriginal or incorrect on an assumption. They have to be right so their solution must take a physical form instead of a solution oriented way of thinking and communicating.
There is zero humility in groupers, individuality, or introspection and it’s all downstream of being afraid to think for yourself. It’s fear. They’re just so terrified of their own shadow deep down. They need to outsource their thinking in the same way they need to have others do the work for them. They’re positively reinforced by the larger the group and feel protected by other groupers.
Awful awful group of people the Groupers. And they’ll turn on themselves in a heartbeat if you don’t align with the shared brain of the group. Anything that might be hard or represents work is a hard no for them.
Fuckin groupers
I agree with all that wholeheartedly. Great assessment. The part about cutting off friends and family and not even being capable of having a debate is to accurate unfortunately.
Personally dealing with it now. My “political views” were from low morality people apparently. But no one asked what my political views were. My political views seem to be susceptible to changing with data. But of course a kind, curious and solution oriented conversation to keep friends and family ties from severing is harder for people that need to be right than cutting off family and friends.