> why he doesn't like comparing bitcoin (onchain) to monero (onchain) !

I do like comparing them, and I often do so

I'll do it again here:

Monero's ring signatures offer similar privacy protections as coinjoins do, with a few caveats:

(1) monero's ring signatures are non-interactive, which is way better than a coinjoin

(2) monero's ring signatures are limited to 16 people in the current protocol, which is way worse than a coinjoin

> doing your challenge to compare LN to monero requires a LN-monero

No it doesn't. I'm comparing LN to "on-chain" monero and I'm saying LN -- as a well-designed off-chain protocol -- offers superior privacy features than "on-chain" monero. I look forward to LN-monero existing maybe someday in the future, but the nice thing is, you don't have to wait! You can have LN-like privacy "right now." Use lightning. It exists and works.

> why does [monero] have [so much less] spam?

I don't know but if I had to guess it's because no one cares to spam it

> monero...forces blocks to be small, but **punishes** increase

This is a contradiction. If they are allowed to increase, they are not forced to be small.

> never ask a bitcoiner what is a "p2pool" and why is it increasing

I don't know what p2pool is or why it is increasing. Care to share?