I am unfortunately not very practical, it's true
I am almost finished listening to the episode, and I'm enjoying it very much. Both men not only have opinions, but there is thinking behind their opinions, so they are worth listening to. I think nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 tends towards the simple solution, whereas nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn sometimes has lofty and complicated ideas that I can't always understand. It was refreshing to hear them boldly state their opinions, even when they clash, and then discuss them with mutual respect. We need to have more people like that.
Discussion
Somebody has to think big and have dreams. Sometimes practical people can be too pessimistic and not try things that could be good ideas. That's why we need each other.