Anyone having issues with Damus push notifications? Started out strong when I deleted and reinstalled Damus but now nothing. I left Damus and primal notifications on all day to compare.
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I can't speak on Damus but primal pushes pretty accurately for me. My only issue is sometimes it fails to refresh without closing and reopening the app.
I tried closing and reopening the app. No luck. Also uninstall and reinstall the app. Helps for a while but then no luck either
Damus notifications in app have been bad recently. Complained a few times to Will already but nothing has changed. Hoping it gets cleaned up soon.
So itâs not just me. Itâs super practicalâŚwhen it works
Damus lowkey been fucking up lately. I think theyâve been focusing on the android build too much.
I think you nailed it. Damus on iOS, notedeck on Mac OS, Damus on Android. Hard to be the king when focusing on 3 different platforms.
Amethyst dev used to say thatâs why he was focusing solely on Android. Starting to think he was right đĽ˛đĽ˛đĽ˛
Amethyst dev needs to fix âď¸ thread notifications though đ
But yeah maybe after all that is done, maintenance for the 3 apps will be more manageable
Iâm keeping both primal and Damus notifications on for a while. Just to see the difference. Yesterday when I told Elsat they worked for 20mins maybe. Silence since. Primal notifications going strong. No interruptions
Primal still has a ways to go but theyâve improved a lot. If they could just get rid of that fucking caching relay lol
I donât wanna say this but the caching relay has a few advantages. Like for example the amount of data saved when browsing nostr.
Last week Ryan was looking into pfps for his app and most donât use compressed images. So like 500kb to 2MB per pfp everytime you browse on Damus (if itâs not compressed). On primal however they compress it all with the caching relay. One of the reasons why the images arenât the same
The one time primal wallet doesnât work đ
Yeah thatâs a good point. I know one of the main advantages is that primal saves you more battery and data. Bandwidth is a bigger problem outside of our countries.
Outside of the west for sure. Also when on the go. I checked sometimes on vacation I could use .6-1GB+ in a day, just for browsing.
Thatâs not bad. I use damus more than primal but last month I burned 1.68 gb on damus while only burning 248 mb on primal.
1GB per day. So for 2 weeks it was close to 20GB. Not close to finishing my plan but still. Primal and Nostur usage is way lower. WAY lower
That explains why the feed looks and feels so smooth
Their caching server is not the part saving data, itâs their media optimization proxy.
They can get rid of it and instead use high performance relays like nostr.land and it would still barely use data :)
Media optimization proxy⌠is that like a server through which all the images go through? Is that linked to their media hosting server or itâs another step?
It is separate. The biggest data eater on Nostr is media, not relays.
An app built with nostr.land and some other performant relays would not have any difference from Primalâs data usage if it optimizes media.
So if I only use nostr land on Damus, I understand I would use way less data than if I use 5 relays like now. But how is that helping the image sizes since Damus doesnât have that image proxy?
Nostr.land optimizes your relay data connection only.
To optimize media Iâd need to be able to modify the note content.
Currently Damus allows this but this wonât work with Notedeck, I guess nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s could do something that allows nostrscript modules for this.
Notedeck isnât on mobile yet though. Less useful for how I use day to day. But great feature to have
nostr relays are lightweight af. still worth making them as fast as possible. nobody has even started to touch the possibilities with subscriptions powering realtime collab apps along similar lines as figma or meistertask or other similar kinds of apps. there is major money to be had supporting and hosting such services for businesses who want to get off the cloud
Damus on Android = notedeck
When on iOS though đđĽ˛
eventually, but it will be locked down so whats the point
What about the purple subscribers on iOS? đ
iOS is actively being developed by just as many devs as android...
they just don't post about it as much as I do since I like to yap
So the devs working on iOS are working on notedeck iOS? Ok good I was confused I thought you meant notedeck is only being implemented on android now and eventually on iOS. So iOS is getting all the fancy features too. Cool
yeah the local-first tech in notedeck will be available in damus ios. i specifically designed nostrdb for this and will be the workhorse/engine of both the apps. nostrdb is already partially integrated in damus ios, we just need to start using it in a local-relay-model like way like we do in notedeck
see this 213 commit PR by me and daniels work on it as well this recent weeks:
Awesome Will! Thank you for your work on Damus, as usual đ¤
first i'm hearing about it
cc nostr:nprofile1qqspw5udc2nzw6wsj3plrrphe0343744h0ucz9e4g248chl3w8kh03qppamhxue69uhkumewwd68ytnrwgqs6amnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0ds7ygzuk not sure if you already know about this
Can you share your settings/notifications?
Everything is turned on and I have the hide setting at 10
Settings/Notifications/Damus as well
https://github.com/damus-io/damus/issues/3022#issuecomment-3105036969
cc nostr:npub13v47pg9dxjq96an8jfev9znhm0k7ntwtlh9y335paj9kyjsjpznqzzl3l8
Thanks Elsat
See, you have to pay for purple so you can get on the TestFlight and then it still wonât work.
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Arenât push notifications available on the App Store version?
Hmmmm