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The stupidest thing about the red pill movement is the idea that these dudes deserve a virgin bride.

Only a virgin man deserves a virgin bride. If you are a dude who will fuck anything that moves, you are a whore and you do not deserve a virgin. Virgin women don’t want an experienced man, they want their first time to be meaningful and intimate. Women feel the same way about virginity as men do. (At least this is true for Christian and Muslim virgin women)

There is great wisdom in the abrahamic tradition of chastity until marriage. Men and women want the same thing, so why do we all try to sleep around like it will make us a better partner, when it does the opposite?

Elephant in the root 1y ago

I wasn't under the impression that Red Pill movement "teaches" so. Maybe I happened to listen to the more reasonable folks?

Aside from that, men and women are different. If men do want X it doesn't mean women do want X too or that they have to want it. I believe you that there are religious/traditional women wanting virgin men but it doesn't imply the reverse. And it seems bilogically/psychologically there are differences in this area.

To be clear, I do think that sleeping around isn't good for anyone but I like to poke holes into people's arguments regardless of whether I agree with them or not.

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Ancap Revolt 1y ago

I think there is a biological imperative for monogamy amongst all humans. Women will assume men pair bond the same way they do, and they would be right.

Elephant in the root 1y ago

The push towards forcing women being monogamous is much stronger. Both have cost of STDs and splitting up resources to care about children is inefficient but if a woman gets SECRETLY pregnant with a different man than her husband her husband wastes ton of resources. It's also an advantage for the other man to achieve it.

This is consistent with what we observe.