Meet nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgqgewaehxw309a4kjarrdpjkutn6v9czucm0da4kjmn8qqsry0gl27g2q54ae44lq4kh3st9dyjy7mlsz865q7hw3nm097nsles62z04z.

I've heard him on a few podcasts over the last year or so but did not know how deep down the rabbit hole he is.

On this episode of Future of Agriculture, Vance nails it to the wall about how bitcoin will demonetize land and bring the cost back down to its utility value. He even mentions nostr so consider following this nostrich.

https://fountain.fm/episode/XjYi2tU32iyF4NEFPBG0

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Woah! Watching this right now! What a cross connection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LasVrVDpW0w

Okay. That’s just bizarre!

Why?

He happened to be listening to that particular episode when I dropped the note about you on FoA. Timing is 🔥

Maybe not as synchronistic as literally listening to a different interview at the same time 😅, but more the cross cutting between the Game~B movement with Bitcoin/nostr. So I immediately started listening to the FoA episode you dropped.

Yeah. I literally cannot explain how influential Zak Stein's ideas have been in the design of #Alexandria. Entrenched at at all layers.

Tell me more about this Alexandria project. I know Jim Rutt of Plan B quite well (we did a cool VR podcast once), but he is ideologically opposed to Bitcoin and it makes me very suspicious of Plan B.

Alexandria is a "social network" for ideas. A way for ideas to connect and evolve.

1) It aims to be a knowledge commons/ecosystem on top of nostr. The intuition is that notes can link together. Like paragraphs in a chapter or chapters in a book, and so on.

2) Users can use it like a regular note taking app, or to publish these linked notes to form blogs, books, documentation etc.

3) Other users can take those notes, mix them into their own collection of ideas, like a collage.

Then when you put that infrastructure on nostr, with each relay having their own standards (from personal notes, to focused communities and disciplines, to general knowledge) - ideas propagate and combine across disciplines and communities.

On one hand, each community keeps their signal quality. On the other, the conversation doesn't have to stop at the community.

I probably use the term Game B in a more general way than it probably is defined. I used to listen to a lot of podcasts in that realm years ago, I think I even remember Jim Rutt brainstorming some form of new social media.

I feel like it was immediate for me recognize the potentials of Bitcoin and nostr, so I can relate to your point. It is interesting how Bitcoin doesn't come up.

There is something like a "game~b ex-pat community" on nostr and elsewhere. People who listened to a certain set of podcasts in 2016-2021 and then fell off when that community didn't seem to get with the program wrt decentralized tech and Bitcoin.

Almost feels like "it's up to us now"....

Oh boy, this feels like a rabbit hole

nostr:nprofile1qqsza748zkamgmw4he4hm2xhwqpxd5gkwju38wqh3twmtshx8kv8xvgpr9mhxue69uhhqatjv9mxjerp9ehx7um5wghxcctwvsq32amnwvaz7tmhda6zumn0wd68ytnsv9e8g7gprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wdnxcctjv5hxxmmdd79m6g have you spoken to the ones on nostr? There's a lot to untangle. So if there are people to talk to, the most grounded approach would be to listen to their perspective.

Like who? My flippant response to that would be " if they're already here then they get it".

I'm more concerned with the ones who aren't here. On that front I've sent a few emails to people who I _have_ gotten responses from in the past and have received radio silence

Everything will be priced in #Bitcoin

How did you find this?

FoA is a standard listen for me. It’s in my nostr:npub1v5ufyh4lkeslgxxcclg8f0hzazhaw7rsrhvfquxzm2fk64c72hps45n0v5 subscriptions.

No shit? I’ll tell Tim you said this

John Kempf is another standard listen.

https://fountain.fm/episode/S3sKXdTPekYHG5no6lmv

This is wild- how did you get so interested in farming?

I can't really explain how, even to myself but I have become this huge soil nerd. After reading books like the Permaculture Designers Manual, Holistic Management, and about 50 other books on soil biology, carbon, and pasture management I sorta can't think of anything other than general agriculture and bitcoin.

Here's a piece I wrote about bitcoin and forest management if you're interested.

https://www.bitcoinandshow.com/forest-walker-bitcoin-mining-and-forest-management/

Have you read teaming with microbes?

I’ve have all three of those books: microbes, fungi, and nutrients. Excellent reads. Fungi was my favorite.

Classic works.

Speaking of which, I have a friend working on robotics that wants to make a positive impact. So I sent him this article to hopefully get some ideas spinning in his head, a reminder for me to keep up with him and get his thoughts 😎

Thanks, liminal. That’s very appreciated!

That closed loop is a mechanical extension of the forest ecosystem. Insane to think about.

This is a wild vision! It is so far away from any other solution it is pretty amazing

Thank you, Vance.

I can’t zap your notes, FYI.

My Alby hub went down- I’ll fix tonight when kids go to bed

This prompted me to fix my node. Thanks

Successful zap!

LFG