Chicken and egg. The CIA creates terror, justifies retribution, terrorism in US, justifies middle-east occupation. One of those things is always happening. I was simply stating "Occupying the middle-east" is directly causal to the vicious cycle no matter what point of the cycle we are in. In any case I think we are in rough agreement that occupying foreign nations is not good. Terrorism is not good. And the CIA being terrorists abroad is not good.