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That's a statement against the Jewish occupation, more than the Palestianians. But ok, fair, he mentioned them. But I think we're getting bogged down by one example that can be argued from different directions.

The CIA created ISIS and probably Al Queda. In my view, the terrorism is a construct to require our ongoing presence in the middle east. It isn't a result of our being there. It gives us a reason to be there.

JackTheMimic 11mo ago

Chicken and egg. The CIA creates terror, justifies retribution, terrorism in US, justifies middle-east occupation. One of those things is always happening. I was simply stating "Occupying the middle-east" is directly causal to the vicious cycle no matter what point of the cycle we are in. In any case I think we are in rough agreement that occupying foreign nations is not good. Terrorism is not good. And the CIA being terrorists abroad is not good.

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William ₿ Travis 11mo ago

Completely agree with you on that. My concern was less for terrorism and more for the great likelihood that the Paelstinians won't be allowed back. Trump modified his position today, calling the relocation temporary.

My hope is that he's blocking Israel from occupying the Gaza strip and continuing their destruction of it. If that is true, I will wait to see if that's what's happening. The Palestinians deserve to live in peace.