57 NIPs changed in 12 hours, without any author consent.
The close group that control the protocol still wont tell the public who they are (apart for Leo). The world needs an open version of nostr.
Fuck that dystopia.
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benevolent dictators??? š
One dictator, no matter how well meaning, is always going to make mistakes. That's an area where nostr has a chance to be something different. But it needs to move to an open community lead, transparent, system. Right now the federal reserve is more transparent than nostr. The world needs an open version of nostr.
I agree... but to consider: anyone can get into nostr. just do it. create something. Be part of the dictators. I for myself am too deep into the fiat mining rn, no time for that.
On the other hand, open community is an overhead which has to be managed and uses resources. And if there is one, who guarantees it goes into your direction and is not taken by "whales" (see linux foundation), anyone with their own interests.
Sometimes, having few dictators is better for the whole.
But really, I still don't get all the dynamics behind nostr, yet... and will I have time to get behind it? dont know.
good point
I supported the idea of it, but man, it really just went and got merged quick, didnāt it. š¬
Iād like to have my web of trust take over management of the NIPs for me. No need for a centralized repo.
For many or most NIPs, my WoT and your WoT will produce identical or nearly-identical protocols.
And in that manner, we reach a consensus thatās good enough to work, with no centralized control.
Wait what? Doesnāt this mess with the whole underpinnings or am I reading that wrong? The nips changing portion. And doesnāt that mean itās an attack vector for something malicious?
Also I have two thoughts on knowing who is working on protocol level dev: 1) I have been wondering who exactly is involved here and didnāt know if I just hadnāt researched it yet and thus didnāt know or if it wasnāt public 2) I know it could lead to harassment of the devs so I can also see why someone might want to remain anonymous.
57 of 99 I think I need to spend some time on GitHub to understand how thatās even possible ā¦
The vast majority of projects in open source are open and transparent. Nostr is well below par on that front, it is an open protocol, but barely. What is needed is a community driven nostr, which is open, and everyone knows who controls it. People can build closed or proprietary things on Nostr, and that is fine. But the base protcol should be open and not owned by anyone, no matter how well meaning.
Annnnd I didnāt realize it wasnāt. š¤¦āāļø Itās absolutely implied that itās fully an opensource project.
BUT I would also be ok with the idea of there being a core team working on the first portion of the protocol simply for speedās sake as long as thereās an opensource audit going on with the team listening to feedback (you canāt take action or prioritize everything all at once and some people donāt get that too. Gets tiring watching people scream at devs who are in fact trying to listen but are also trying to get something to the next stage as well.)
The list of alleged tyrants has been leaked. As expected... the usual suspects:
Is that all? I would expect more names. No @benarc no nostr:npub1j8y6tcdfw3q3f3h794s6un0gyc5742s0k5h5s2yqj0r70cpklqeqjavrvg ?
Dammit weāre so screwed šš«
Maybe I'm missing something, but I think this is overblown. Nostr is permissionless, I build what I want how I want, the nips act as an agreement for interop, but I can implement smth that others follow without any formal nip in the repo, it's just consensus. The repo is always owned by someone.
Are you saying the NIP proposals on git are being changed and merged to master/main without a pull request and author notification?
no such thing as a nip author anymore https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/commit/37f6cbb775126b386414220f783ca0f5f85e7614
What were the main nature of the changes?