yes, we have a basic 2017 f150 that isn’t computerized at all
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Is this a joke?
Chip is stunned.
I legit can't remember a time when cars weren't completely computerized. We were building like that in the late 90s, and it probably started much earlier.
I am lol. I was de-compiling code with a copyright date as early as 1980.
gasoline yes, since about 1995 almost all have computers
diesel i think they started in the late noughties or early teenies
put it this way, i worked on a CT50 copy china made engine, tinkered with the electrics, and yes, gasoline engines require a spark, diesel no... but there was ZERO digital logic circuits on that bike, and this was circa 2008, everything was old school 6V analog, hard switches, solenoids, etc.
seriously, those who understand, will get it when i say that diesel engines will come back in a big way for utility transport when there is too much frequency of CMEs and the gagnetic shield of the earth goes through its' flip
it's going to be so bad that even electrical devices underground will still need some tin foil to stop the gamma from toasting the ICs
For light duty, yes, computers started to hit the road in 1994 models with fully controlled the engines. For Ford this was called EEC-V Diesel Powertrain Control (DPC) V1. These controlled the Navistar (international) 7.3L engine. This era was my specialty. Ford started testing and writing firmware dating back to 1980 but it didn't hit the road till 94.
Chrysler followed in 95 for common rail Cummins engines, GM followed in 2002.
Volkswagon ran mechanically injected to 2004 iirc for passenger cars here in the US.
See, I was in Australia and my grandfather swore by diesel golfs. And yeah the main way to know it's computer controlled is the lower case i
Some of the fondest memories of my mispent youth in Australia are hooning around Brisbane in my mate's diesel Golf. We nearly killed it once by taking it bush bashing around Lennox Heads, cracked the oil pan open like a coconut. The local shop got it back on the road in a couple of days and the Golf lived to die another day
truly little tanks those cars
i got to drive a fancy yuppie golf GT back in 2003, man, that thing had such stable suspension, it was like driving a train
4 door manual transmission golf's are priced by their weight in gold here in the US. Everyone I know that owns one drives the sack off of it and endlessly repairs it. They're so hard to find in repairable shape.
Yeah. But imagine how valuable one becomes in a global geomagnetic disaster...
It would be worth getting a brand new, custom cast and machined engine made IMO. The chassis can outlast several engines I'm sure.
Economically were already there with light duty trucks. For the cost of newer used trucks, it would be cheaper to completely frame-off restore a 2000s diesel truck, build an engine block and transmission, update interior and paint for less money. I'm thinking of just paying someone to fully restore my truck instead of a newer one. I can't afford to maintain a newer one either.
interesting... so all the electronics are actually raising the price beyond economic productivity of the truck?
Mostly the complexity and emissions equipment. The emissions components on newer trucks can cost nearly $20,000 if you purchase the replacement parts retail. Until 2003 most of these pickup trucks didn't have any add-on emissions control equipment, it was all done in software to meet the specifications.
and in reality, nothing really changed, but a bunch of bureaucrats got paid and a lot of useless junk got made and sold and the consumer is even more in debt because the vehicle has become literally more expensive than it's worth
This is my plan currently
I mean it has diagnostics and stuff like that, but compared to the nonsense that is in modern vehicles, this thing is basically a flip phone.
If it has the "Sync" system it has a cellular modem installed and cannot be removed. I don't know what year started mandatory modems for telematics in Fords.
Both of these trucks might also have electric steering. Meaning even your steering wheel is not connected to anything but a computer.