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You two are making it pretty clear that you're getting your economics ideas from the Bible. Whatever that book may be, it's not an economics textbook. Most economics textbooks aren't even proper economics textbooks, but the Bible even less so.

The thing about economics (and reality in general) is that it isn't moved by magical thinking. _humans_, can be moved by magical thinking, which in turn might move entire societies, markets or mindsets, but that requires the stock level of magical-thinkers to be quite high or well-positioned.

It seems to me to be a dangerous strategy to say "here be Bitcoin, the solution to the lies and magical thinking of fiat money. Come, those who see through the bullshit, and live in the real world" but then in the next breath spout a bunch of mystical stuff from religious books and expect this alternate society to be on board for it...

If you really expect you'll live in a new society of rational people who prefer real money, don't you also expect those same rational people will prefer to discard abrahamic religions and live in the real world? Incidentally, in that case they probably won't agree with you about usury since your preference here is overtly Christian.

If you think that you're smarter than thousands of years of human tradition and wisdom by some of the greatest minds that ever lived, then I don't think we have anything left to discuss.

Classic "the Bible says so, therefore conversation over".

You know what else has been a human tradition for thousands of years? **Currency debasement**. "If you think your Bitcoin is smarter than thousands of years of currency debasement and government wisdom wrt money, then I don't think we have anything left to discuss."

You see the problem with that right?

contracts that include unilateral control over terms on one side are not contracts, they are slavery

Slavery is involuntary. Contracts are not.

if i make a loan to you, but i have in the "contract" that i can arbitrarily change the repayment rate at any time, is that a contract?

that is your standard fiat finance business

this is precisely what the most essential meaning of usury is:

slavery

my "deal" is forced on you and you don't have any input on its essential parameters

Sounds like a good opportunity for a competing lender to offer a fixed interest rate. And then, yes, i can **choose** which contract to voluntarily sign and yes they are both contracts.

I'll weight the expect costs/benefits of both the flexible and fixed interest contracts and choose the one I prefer.

Slavery is also voluntary.. By contracts. How else can you explain no jab, no job