both of yall and the creator of the image above are skating past the questions of labor as private property aka wage slavery and wealth concentration. im just letting yall know that those who critique capitalism are not talking about anything on that list but instead concerned with the fact that labor, housing, health, and policy are commodified under capitalism to create terrible conditions for youth and families to thrive as well as a massive wealth gap between those at the top and us. only a state forged by the CEOs maintains that contradiction.

marxist economics emerged as a critique to the 2 class caste system (the class that hoards capital via the commodification of labor and policy and the working class AKA the haves and the have nots). by regurgitating conservative talking points about what marxism is or isnt and putting me in a category of not being able to think outside of the "shell" of capitalism, you're displaying an inability to engage in a rigorous debate about models of production in society. only when structural incentives change in these production models will the state dissolve and the world move beyond capitalism / socialism to something better. economic freedom should not be reserved only for the capitalists. the laborers deserve it too. we deserve a choice in selling our labor to a CEO, the epitome of centralized power, or using it to better our communities.

that whole absolutism about there being no alternative to capitalism is also disingenous. global capitalism has been mad unstable in the last couple hundred years. along with periodic recessions caused by the excess surplus in production, it had to be saved by SOCIALISM during the great depression via the new deal as well as the 07 - 08 financial crisis via bank bailouts. within these "cycles" of capitalism lies turmoil and tragedy for the every day family. i know people that know people that killed themselves when they lost everything in 07-08.

the puppet masters are the CEOs who exploit the economic model of production to maintain a hegemony over the world and its institutions. these are the same puppet masters that inspired facist dictators through Latin America, Europe, and southeast Asia over the last century to weaponize the state to maintain a two class caste system (laborer aka exploitee and employer/state aka exploiters) in their coutries and squash all dissent.

it's unbelievable that you would use fascism in Europe and Latin America as an example of capitalism. Both fell to Marxist/collectivist ideals. Latin America was once wealthy until it fell to Marxist revolutions. It's been a corrupt and degenerate space ever since.

You say we are dodging the question, but it isn't capitalism that needs to justify itself. History is on our side. Its collectivism of whatever flavor you want that needs to prove itself. it's never worked. Just slowly eroded the wealth of any nation it's set it's roots in.

By all means offer an example that didn't end in tragedy.... I'll wait.

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the centralized, dominating power that your boss/the CEO/the capitalist, has over the laborers in the enterprise for the duration of their shifts mirrors the governments of facist dictators in their weaponization of state power to subvert political processes and maintain this fundamental 2 class caste system. the boss/capitalist literally takes all of the fruits of your labor, sells it at a markup, and breaks you off a crumb (a wage) for an hour of your time. if you speak out against this injustice or try to organize your workplace for better working conditions, capital and the state are there to make sure you stay in line. like the slave asked themselves every day in the morning "do i go in and do the master's bidding, or tell him i need a sick day and risk 50 lashes?" the employee every morning has to ask "do i go in and give this extremely wealthy capitalist with way more favorable life circumstances than me the product of 8+ entire hours of my labor in exchange for a minimum wage, or do i forgo my financial obligations this month and get evicted or lose my kids?" where is the liberty in this economic model of production? wage slavery is not good. more and more people are having to work longer hours to afford the basics for their families. the capitalists ship jobs to poorer nations to exploit their circumstances in the name of minimizing labor costs, further fueling the class divide in those nations. we are not happy with this arrangement and the way its deteriorating our qualities of life. meanwhile the capitalists are as wealthy as they have ever been since the years leading up to the great depression.

the national socialist workers party aka the nazi's were anti-communist af. these facist dictators, are no better examples of "Marxist/collectivist" ideals than the united states "Democratic" party is of "democratic" ideals as they habitually subvert democratic/political processes via the commodification of policy (lobbying of corporate backed interest groups/PACs etc) and the deployment of state power and capital for regime change in the rest of the world, particularly in Latin America/Caribbean nations.

we need to move to more localized models of production that prioritize decentralized control of surplus by the laborers vs centralization of power in a capitalist. whether thats a service that you need to get licensed to be able to provide or a collectively owned public intstruments like the public bank in north dakota, u.s. (which weathered the 07 08 recession admirably). we have businesses cooperatively owned and operated by prisoners in Puerto Rico. there is a coop bakery called Arizmendi in oakland california (look up who Arizmendi was) and a dope coop grocery called Rainbow in san francisco too. many successful examples of cooperatively operated enterprise ran by commies currently exist and have existed throughout the world. they are dwarfed, unfortunately, by the centralized, facist employers (the capitalists and the state who does their bidding) who "employ" the vast majority of the planet and been peeling back worke's' collective gains post WW2 and in the united states are literally coordinating a challenge to the constitutionality of the national labor board right now...is that unbelievable?

this is a critique of capitalism. not reflected in the original image you shared.

no one is saying you need to work. if you don't want to work, then try entrepreneurship.

Learn and participate or don't and complain.

I'm moving on from your complaints. As I said, these arguments are old, stale and the ideology has never produced a productive and profitable society. Communists have almost well over 100 years under their belt.

Karl Marx himself was a spendthrift alcoholic that refused to work. And while he rubbed shoulders with elites that continually supported him, his children died due to hunger and poor living conditions. He was a complainer and a degenerate. Nations that have been sucked into his mental disease morally degrade in a similar fashion until the nation itself becomes a mirror of his life.

Maybe learn how money and finance work 🤷‍♂️.

Good Luck, Boricua.

for every degenerate communist like Marx theres a piece of shit capitalist "financer" like Epstein that undergird the facade of an american dream by being literally in bed with shitcoiners like SFB, our kids, politicians, and other "pure" capitalists that force their employees into signing a contract under duress because they are the only ones in society that are able to provide sustainance for them in the form of wages to pay for things like a roof over your head. if you cant pay for that, the police will lock you up for sleeping at the park. you also need to pay for food to feed your kids. if you cant pay for that, cps will come for them too. under the affordable care act health insurance was mandated by the state for most, meaning they could come for you for that too. at every turn, corporations and the state that coddles them attack our civil liberties and make our lives suck. people are not happy. can you point to some happiness and hope right now?

resorting to imaginary 100-year communist realities and ad hominem attacks like a bonafide fascist. the era of capitalism is coming to an end. a better era of coopoerative entrepreneurship and economics is coming. this is why bitcoin is revolutionary as fuck.