3% sats back. May be too steep an ask though. Anything less than that, just a normal cash back credit card is likely better

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yeah those don’t make any money and i don’t know why we would be better at giving you cash back than AMEX.

i know it sounds good but i wonder if there is any substance to why we’d be better for Bitcoiners. buying bitcoin, getting a loan, yield on cash, etc makes sense

Then do a debet card and let me spend fiat or my SATs at normal vendors - I don't use credit cards anymore as miles and lounges are worthless to me especially if I could earn even a small amount of SATs back. That's how you compete with AMX give the reward in SATs which for Bitcoiners is better then anything credit card companies can offer... 1% in SATs or 3% in fiat? Id rather have the SATs