nostr:npub1qh5sal68c8swet6ut0w5evjmj6vnw29x3k967h7atn45unzjyeyq6ceh9r I’ve seen the data about how no bitcoin purchaser has been at a loss over a 4 year period . . .

What about a 30 day period?

No idea how to figure that info out but with nostr:npub1ex7mdykw786qxvmtuls208uyxmn0hse95rfwsarvfde5yg6wy7jq6qvyt9 ‘s new bill pay I see people concerned about ST volatility (up & down with taxes or losses). Was wondering if there was a way to come up with an average 30 day return. This assumes you’re paid on the 1st and your bill pay is on the 30th. I guess it would also be interesting to know average 15 day return for semi-monthly payroll people.

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30 days would be tough without a decent margin. I would think you would want 18-24 months of living expenses to weather the ups and downs and drawing on it for living expenses.

Being exposed 18-24 months living expenses in USD would terrify me. That’s so much risk!

I would want that much in BTC before I would consider using it for living expenses. If wanting to completely live off of BTC and have zero usd that is. I guess unless you make significantly more each month in usd than your expenses.

It doesn’t have to be significantly more. If your expenses were 75% of your paycheck then bitcoin would have to draw down 26% between the time of paycheck to bill pay day for there to be an issue. Not unheard of but unlikely to happen repeatedly.

Not only that, it would only be a problem for the one paycheck.

I’m with you on having an emergency fund but you don’t need 2 years of fiat sitting around and melting away.

I’m not advocating for 2 years of USD… I would keep cash flowing USD monthly and saving the overage in BTC until the BTC stack is up to at least 2 years worth of expenses…. I have many years of living expenses in Bitcoin but haven’t made that switch yet more due to laziness and not taking the time to figure out the practicalities of it yet.

Ah, yes I understand now and I agree conceptually. Probably would argue you don’t need 2 years to get on a bitcoin standard, but I agree with your point. Living on a bitcoin standard doesn’t work today for someone with no savings since their expenses aren’t denominated in BTC.

Yes, 2 years is probably overkill. Timing in the cycle (do those still exist?) when starting probably matters too…

My hot take is that after your first cycle (if they still exist), they are irrelevant for you personally.

No doubt. And anyone who has been in for more than a cycle should have many months (I’d argue years) of spending in BTC saved up, otherwise I’m not sure what they’ve been doing.

100% . . . I’m a class of 2021 and because I kept stacking in the bear I’ve gone from months to years.

Same. The bear market was the best. Sold all of my commercial real estate holdings in 22 and 23 and aped it in.

Wow that’s awesome. Most of my stacking was rotation out of equities and income stacking. Still holding on to one residential rental because I don’t have much equity in it but would rotate to BTC in a heartbeat if I could cleanly.

nostr:npub1qh5sal68c8swet6ut0w5evjmj6vnw29x3k967h7atn45unzjyeyq6ceh9r welcome back to Nostr! Any thoughts on this ^ ?