The ability to strike and grapple competently is way more important than raw strength. Unpopular opinion maybe but I’ve seen big / strong dudes get absolutely torn to pieces by wirey dudes half their strength in the gym time and again.

Technique, speed and timing > strength every time. I don’t make the rules.

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Those high school wrestling days are invaluable. Been thinking about coaching but local HS is pathetic….no grit on these kids…coaching gone soft. Maybe Jiu-Jitsu is better?

Dude yes high school wrestling will put you at an advantage over 99% of the population out of the gate.

I think BJJ will enable you to polish up your wrestling skills from the past and learn how to end people in new and different ways.

Street fighting and combat sports are different.

The big strong guy gets owned by small guy that knows X martial art/sport comment is usually in the context of said martial art/sport not a street fight. Combat skills obviously translate, but when anything goes size and strength start to matter more than “fighters” like to admit. A boxer can’t tell some random dude on an alley not to kick him or tackle him and a BJJ guy can’t tell that dude not to get up or bite him. I take a NFL linebacker any day over some boxer or BJJ guy that’s significantly smaller/weaker on a street fight any day

99.9999% of the human population isn’t anywhere near the size, strength or athleticism of an NFL linebacker. You’re taking the absolute pinnacle of human athleticism (enhanced by the best PEDs available) and saying they’d beat a regular boxer or BJJ guy lol not a huge leap.

But if you’ll read a little closer I’m saying someone needs to be competent in striking (kicks and punches) and grappling. A kickboxer beats a boxer 9/10 because they have more tools and the boxer doesn’t know how to deal with the kicks. The synergy of skills is important.

In real life the guy who is competent at striking and grappling and has experience sparring will beat the regular strong guy 9/10 times. One of the main things that happens is the big guys always get tired. They don’t know how to conserve energy and they’ve never trained to fight so they get tired in 60 seconds.

There are tons of examples of power lifters and roided out dorks getting tapped by much smaller BJJ guys. The idea that someone can bite or scratch their way out of a tight choke from a real BJJ killer is a joke and shows your ignorance. It’s not a realistic path to victory.

I’ve also seen big dudes get destroyed on the feet by smaller guys when they can’t figure out how to take them down. You can’t just run in and grab someone who has good footwork. And people who don’t understand striking defense get rocked very fast. When you’re rocked and seeing stars you ain’t shit, I don’t care how much you can deadlift.

My take was a commentary on the amount of strength/size people with particular fighting skills think they can overcome with said skills on a street fight.

Everyone likes to point out the delusions of buff dudes with no fighting skills thinking they can fight. I’m just pointing out there is a delusion on the other end of people like Devin Haney thinking they can take on Bradley Martin easily on a street fight just because he can throw punches really good.

Both are delusional

Yeah I agree. Boxing is pretty limited for sure and a guy like Martin would probably take him out without much trouble. But he’s a huge roided out freak and Haney is like 150 lol

I do think any high level MMA fighter bantamweight or up would beat Matin’s ass in a street fight with no issue. But Haney, no.