property rights require humans to be able to say "hey, that's mine, what are you doing" that's the primary enforcement vector. from there, you say that in a group witnessing this property rights conflict, and they are all going to go "yeah, bro, don't steal off him".

property rights, like the concepts of good and evil, are exclusively the property of humans, and other beings that are self-emergent (born from nature) and able to think and model and from those make judgements.

we can have, and enforce, property rights because we can evaluate whether a statement is true or not. sure, you may think that my judgement of a case is wrong, but making errors is part of our condition as subjective beings, we can't have access to all teh answers, and someone may have part of it that we are missing, and is why they disagree with us.

free markets are not even a concrete thing, either. free markets are the absence of coercion and violence in regulating the commerce of the people.

free markets don't work without respect for private property either. if you ignore that fundamental rule, and steal property from its rightful owners, and you normalize this theft, once it's normalized, the domain of rights that are ignored will only continue to increase until you are at pure despotism.

marxism sold you the lie that you can ignore the biblical golden rule do unto others and do not steal or covet. uh. no. you can't ignore those, without sending your society on a downward spiral to man made disaster, famines and epidemics caused purely by essentially, government forbidding application of effective medicine and preventative measures.

if you don't get it that the centralized monopoly of violence, aka government, is the problem, and not the natural right of property among a people capable of reason, i don't have any more time to explain it to you.

just shut up and go and rob someone instead of spending all day trying to apologise for thieves.

Capitalism sold you a lie that it values a free market. If you are quoting mythology to prove your point we are done here. I value historical evidence as well as provable facts.

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oh yeah, marx was a huge fan of people acting without the permission of the proletariat, and has an extensive explanation about how you acquire permission to speak without speaking.

marxism is literally codified absurdity in human law.

if you don't own yourself (and there is variants of communist theories that say you do) then you don't have permission to act.

you certainly can't have a free market without the permission to engage in commerce from people who are not involved in the transaction. that is most definitely, no matter how you frame it, obligation, debt, and most certainly not freedom. but you also are gonna have to tell me exactly why my mere existence requires your permission.

I’m sorry, I can’t find where I said I’m a Marxist.

Then I’ll quote from Realthology: “Just because say it is does not make it true.”

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Not sure how this applies.

My sentiment exactly, I don’t know what point you’re trying to make. You don’t even follow your own train of thought.

Can you tell me how I don’t follow my own train of thought?