What about the Catholic doctrine did you find hypocritical?
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Neale Donal Walsch's "conversation with God", Deepak Chopra's thougts about quantum body and health, Etienne Klein about time, or ancient scriptures from India?
I am exploring this at the moment and somehow feeling how all of this is related... I would like your thoughts on some of this if any.
For the context in short: I was raised as catholic, found it hypocritical but had some mystical experiences convincing me of the reality of "God", left religion and put spirituality aside, got a kid, put spirituality in the center.
So far pleased to have found and read about your own investigations!
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It was more the practice and the Church that I found hypocritical.
About the practice, I guess it's the same on every religion, people claim things and pray, but behave unaccordingly, that is what stroke me as a teenager. I was always wondering: have they just listened to the scriptures read by the priest?
So I started to think that the style had taken over the content.
As for the Church, its hierarchical functionning, silence in front of repetitive child abuse, the questionable legitimacy of the pope throughout history, the appropriation of the relationship with God (through indulgences then confession), among other things...
The doctrine itself is in my opinion very reductive when defining God, at least in its popular version, by opposition to the thoughts of Meister Eckhart for instance.
Are you a Catholic?
Those seem to be common complaints former Catholics have and reasons why they left the church myself. Now I recognize actions of fallen men do not contradict religion or its institutions.
I grew up Catholic and for similar reasons drifted away from it. Spent many years as an agnostic during and after college. A few years ago I started to become more conservative and between that and Bitcoin I found myself coming back into the faith. Initially it was more from a mainstream Christian or evangelical angle, but I’m becoming more and more convinced I should return to the Catholic church as of recent. Frank Turek helped answer some questions I had regarding the existence of God and Trent Horn has helped dispel many of the myths and criticisms about Catholicism and he makes a compelling case for it as well. Both gentlemen have great debates and content on YT. Oddly enough ChatGPT is really good at answering questions about the Bible and explaining all the typical complaints about Catholicism like infant baptism, confession, etc.
Thank you for sharing. Yes, these were mainly triggers that led me to eventually leave the church.
I have grown up, and I have realised that I could actually come back aware of what is behind the curtain (or the priest in that case)...
But the reason I will not do that is the impact the church and my catholic education had on me. It made me feel divided, separated from God and from myself, separated from nature, and cut me off from other spiritual traditions that were despised in religious class (when not erased by the church in history).
It took me a long time to find that back and I am still struggling for this. I re-learn to trust my guts and feelings, to live my life more connected to my intuitions, my heart and the divine. Reading about Jesus helps me for this but the church (and institutionalised religion in general) does not.
I need to draw my own spiritual path and share with others the fundamental message of all religions, which is always Love.
I can’t speak for your specific experience with your local catholic school or church. I would just note that if you believe Jesus was who he said he was then you can’t take the Church of religion. Religion being the act of inclining the will to render to God what he deserves. The church being an institution and organized as a result is a strength not a weakness as we must be united. We can’t pick and choose what we like from the Bible if we believe in God. The Church is the body on Christ on earth.
I disagree. The Bible itself is subjected to diverging interpretations, amplified by translations, cultural and personal biases, etc.
For that I may be called an heretic and some people in various spaces and times would have me killed in order to "achieve" unity.
But we can choose to be united, right now, in Love. ❤️