Who is more free? A man with no debt and a loving family who live within the laws of the country or a man who ignores all laws is addicted to drugs and does whatever he wants to do? Is freedom at simple as doing whatever you will? Or is it to be without need?

This question is actually very deep and there are many spins that you can put on it and come to different conclusions, it seems to me that a free man isn't controlled by impulse or by financial chains.

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why does the law ignorer have to be addicted to drugs?

I ignore loads of laws and I'm not on the street doing heroin. 🤣

This is just a situation, this isn't a one size fits all situation, as one size fits all doesn't work.

Right, I was being a little pedantic.

At least in this particular situation, I think the guy who has a family is probably more free than the person doing drugs. Maybe it's because I've personally seen the damage that hardcore addiction can do to people. It seems to rob you of your freedom because you live only for the drug.

I think for me freedom comes down to the ability to be able to choose And then implement that choice.

Doesn't have to be, that's just the situation I came up with.

okay. i replied before i understood your point i get it now. still the latter. he is way more free

A free man is free to do what he wants. Wanting things you have control to do is one way to do that. Wanting what is right and making what's right happen is another way, a subset of the other way, and that brings more freedom to yourself and others. Wanting things you can do, which allows you to do other things you will want to do in the future, is another specific way, and it generally tends toward the same thing as doing what's right.

It would depend on if the first man is doing what fills him, or what he "should" do. If it is a should, then he is trapped by having disrespected himself. But if he is there because that's what he wanted out of life, he is the freest of man.

My husband is going for the first kind of free. He has learned that boundaries are good as long as not forced on other people.

Freedom doesn't mean without boundaries, it means to be free to choose respect of self and others.

(There's also other definitions I'm blanking a bit in the real one)