You said:

> "the only way out was [Statism working 'properly' for MY cause]"

That's part of the problem.

The anti BLM folks were saying "the State (in the form of the police) should do the thing I want! (By crushing protests)".

The pro BLM folks were saying "the State (in the form of the courts) should do the thing I want! (By convicting)".

The former tramples on free speech, the latter tramples on due process, but both of those concerns are only valid through a Statist lens anyway. I'm talking about a paradigm shift. Where both of those strategies and concerns are made irrelevant.

The zero-sum rivalrousness of those two positions hinges on the fact that they each want The State to do vaguely contradictory things. And they each want to wield "power in numbers" to convince the State to do their thing.

It's just recapitulating the tyranny of democracy in a different venue.

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I and many other protestors would have preferred the state keep escalating and get overthrown tbh

The state's actions are outside my control though, what I cared about was upholding free speech by being yet another person added into the number of protestors after police violence tried to quiet the anger at state actions

I oppose violent revolution and "overthrow".

Violence in general.

What do you think of Abe Lincoln? I say if he lived forever he might regret being so brutal and believe there were lives that could have been saved, but he fought a fight that did need to be fought

I'm generally not a fan of statists or waging wars of aggression.

I'm also against slavery because it's coercion/aggression.

Those two things can exist at the same time. I don't have to be pro-war just because I'm anti-slavery.

I'm anti-war too, generally, but wasn't Lincoln probably too?

My point is, you can recognize times where violence is needed. But I highly respect how strong your instinct is to avoid it and protect people

Violence is absolutely warranted for **defense** of one's bodily autonomy and intended use of legitimately-acquired property in response to the unintended interference of the same by others. (Where "interference" means your use would preclude mine. You can think about my stuff all you want, since that doesn't preclude my use or access). My position is that this is the only time violence is warranted.

Ideally the minimum amount of force to prevent the unintended interference would be used.

Some people would say the problem with being extremely strict like this is that it prohibits "wars of liberation" and other Fun With Democracy abroad and domestic 😆