USA with no universal healthcare has the highest government spending on healthcare on earth, both per capita and total.

USA also has healthcare outcomes on par with a third world country.

Universal healthcare would not only reduce government spending it would also improve outcomes.

And universal healthcare doesn't even need to be government funded.

The entire argument is nonsense

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In the UK, before the NHS existed we had an incredible healthcare system, by the global standards of the time.

It wasn't funded by the state and it wasn't centralised. In my home town, for instance, we had several hospitals. One of them was a specialist Ear Nose and Throat hospital that served patients from a very wide area.

It was funded by donations, both from the living and left in people's wills when they passed. Wealthy people paid, so that poor people could get healthcare. It worked really well.

Then the state got involved and we find ourselves where we are today.

What's universal healthcare if not government funded?

If not a centralized program, it seems to me that we already have universal healthcare: I fund my health with a half cow from a neighbor's ranch, others fund their health with prescriptions and dr visits, others with whole food and a commitment to health practices.

it's universal

(But geniune question: what do you have in mind?_)

You think healthcare is expensive now? Wait til you see how much it costs when it’s β€œfree”.