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imnuso

Well explained. Absolutely agree.

It’s a tragedy that people believe national socialism to be a far-right position when in fact it’s the exact opposite.

Leo Fernevak 2y ago

I honestly don't know the solution.

On the one hand, free markets (capitalism) is called 'right', while at the same time nazism is falsely called 'right'.

This is a trap that undermines the ability to have a liberty-focused discussion.

We can use a top-down spectrum instead, where the higher spectrum is liberty, free markets and property rights for all, while the lower spectrum is central planning and authoritarianism.

But as long as the left falsely ties nazism to capitalism, we have a conundrum, since capitalism is the opposite of nazism. When we defend free markets and liberty for all, we are attacked as extremists.

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imnuso 2y ago

Correct.

Naziism unfortunately was an amalgamation of far-left and far-right positions and since most people have never known anything else than different forms of collectivism they’re completely incapable of discerning these things.

Most people are generally unable to comprehend economic principles and their prerequisitions too btw. This doesn’t make it better.

Leo Fernevak 2y ago

True, some of the left-right spectrum was a mixed bag of contradicting ideas.

In antiquity, slavery was conceived of as a part of 'property rights', whereas later philosophers like John Locke changed our understanding of slavery and concluded that we cannot own other people as property.

Classical slavery was from the Lockean perspective the anti-thesis of property rights and the primacy of every individual to be sovereign and own themselves.

If the individual can't own themselves, then property rights doesn't exist. Hence slavery undermines the basis of property rights; every individual owning the fruits of our labor.

A slave is not allowed to own the fruits of their labor, because they are not recognized as the sovereign masters of their own mind and body.

Leo Fernevak 2y ago

So as the definiton of property matured over time and there was a realization that we cannot own another person without invalidating our own liberty and property rights, the old conceptions of property rights became anti-thetical to our new understanding of what property rights means.