"It's custodial but you should trust the person running it. But it's totally not the same as fedimint" (paraphrase)

nostr:npub1xvtwx6tduaxnn9v3y7uasskl277achgu0tu2qncmc7hdsz6y2zyqce64sa please explain how your solution cannot be co'oped by bankers? I fully expect your arguments to be the same as pro-ecash arguments, BTW. You've developed tech with the same custodial trust model as fedimint or cashu, except it somehow can't be used by those with malicious intent?

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Obviously the custodial trust model isn't the distinguishing characteristic now is it? I've never had taken issue with that component. I also don't pretend that's some great innovation, like shitcoiners do.

Now, aside from the fact it's not *already* funded by several banker NGOs unlike mint projects,

It's not framed as "trust minimized" which is a lie that Federatooors push,

It does not introduce a new shitcoin payment interface by remaining purely bolt11,

It doesn't make false privacy claims unlike the mintooors,

It does primarily solve networking challenges- which Uncle Jim has and big banks don't.

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> banker NGOS

Aren't you Wolf funded? Run by... career Goldman Sachs people. Hypocrite.

> "trust minimized"

i am not a marketer so carte little for copy material, so sure.

> new shitcoin

ecash is not new. pegging ecash to bitcoin is new. have fun scaling lightning, i hear it's a breeze and totally not hard to do.

> false privacy claims

Do you have any evidence of this? the code is open source, as well as the cryptography the code implements. Please enlighten me how blinded signatures are not privacy preserving.

> solves networking challenges

like paying people offline? how solve?

Let's take your arguments deeper to really understand them.

Wolf invested in us based on work re: LightningVideo, yes Pub powers it's back-end, and both have been built out of my pocket over YEARS prior... Apples and Oranges vs the propaganda wing NGOs

If mints settle on lightning their privacy is bound by that if lightning, which is nearly perfect as I'd. For custodial privacy it requires a large anonset, meaning a bank, not uncle Jim.

It solves offlineness by enabling proper home nodes with an account database, not retarded mobile nodes. Mints have to be online too.

So your funding is from bankers, ACK.

The mints interop over lightning or on-chain or not at all. describe nearly perfect, please. admittedly, LN is not my forte so am happy to be educated on it's privacy. iiuc, it's prvate for one side of the transaction, at the moment.

> For custodial privacy it requires a large anonset

Again, please show me where in the blinded signature scheme that privacy is broken. Stop making vague assertions and show me the math and/or code that breaks the privacy of ecash.

Anonsets are a factor when the underlying mechanism can be tied to transactions. you might be able to trace my UTXO or LN payment into an ecash mint, but please tell me how you can determine what is my ecash after that?

for argument sake, say 5 people have entered into an ecash mint, all via Lightning.

You receive an ecash note in a DM from a random npub, please explain to me how you know who it's from, or where the sats originated from.

> account databases on home nodes

Why do you need accounts? what happens if the node is compromised? data leakages never happen, right?

> retarded mobile nodes

i know nothing of the technicals of mobile LN nodes so cannot comment but that's outside the argument at hand, imho. mobile nodes can gtfo for all i care.

> Mints have to be online too.

yes, but not for users of the mint to transact. you can swap ecash offline and later check in with the mint to redeem.

This is nostr, we are not limted by character count, do better with your arguments.

Blinded signatures by 5 people circle jerking in a mint isn't privacy, if that's your privacy usecase lol.

I'm on mobile and the least bad clients are still fucking terrible, if you want to have this out call me... You can record it and not act like a 14yo being dumped by his gf over text

My IQ keeps dropping with every sentence I read from you.

CornyChat (Xitter spaces like) today at 1200 ET/1700 UTC. would be happy to record.

nostr:npub12rv5lskctqxxs2c8rf2zlzc7xx3qpvzs3w4etgemauy9thegr43sf485vg any chance you're available?