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I've wanted to ask everyone this for ages, trying to make a poll. Please boost/repost for reach, thanks.

Assuming a future where ..

A) you've become filthy rich, either through Bitcoin winning and/or winning the lottery. You're now set up for life. You will not know lack of means for the rest of your life.

B) society as you know it and social and healthcare functions that the state used to take care of, are either gone or unraveling in realtime.

The question is:

How much of your new net worth will you donate (one way or the other) to private trusts and initiatives, co-ops or consensual-governmental institutions that serve societys uncovered needs, such as public goods (roads, streetlights, utilities sort of things), emergency services and disaster relief, education, healthcare and so on? Please answer honestly.

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Jay 9mo ago

It's very rare to see people build capital with free money.

Bearetta 🐻‍❄️🇨🇿 8mo ago

What free money, like extra money? I don't know many who are set, two people who can say they're rich. The rest is more or less struggling. Imho it's hard to tell what would they do if they actually had something to spare.

Bearetta 🐻‍❄️🇨🇿 8mo ago

It's really hard to tell percentage of an abstract illusion. I'm quite pro social help, but do it personally in the way I see is best. It really depends what would that be, whether school or a road. I would absolutely. But large institutions or government? Yikes no. I'd rather have my own.

Autumn Sun ☀️🌘☯️ 8mo ago

Yes, since its an entirely hypothetical scenario, its hard to put a concrete value on what woukd be contributed to a certain project.

The percentage is a psychological question of how much you are willing to give away to others or a local, common good, assuming all your own needs were met. This is what I'm trying to gauge.

Bearetta 🐻‍❄️🇨🇿 8mo ago

It's interesting question. Not much, I guess. I'd rather work on that wealth, bring companies and work to people than to "toss money down the drain." It feels to me that giving people chance to fight for themselves is better solution than just covering their needs. But, even a company would need day care, a good road, security, some housing etc.🤔

Bearetta 🐻‍❄️🇨🇿 8mo ago

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9sirtom5 8mo ago

Well, I think it's impossible to answer this question. Especially honestly.

In real life situation this would depend on so many factors...

Who is asking, how is asking, for which specific issue etc. etc.

Just think when you gave some money for some charity or similar project. Was it whim because the volume was super low? Was is some emotional story of sick child?

Was it some project which you crowdfunded because it made sense to you...

Autumn Sun ☀️🌘☯️ 8mo ago

To attempt answering it, assume that your local community went anarchic and all common services, local council, municipal, borough, departement, amt, district, oblast, region etc ceased functioning effectively immediately and would dissolve.

9sirtom5 8mo ago

Yeah. I get that. But still too many unknowns.

Firstly I expect in that situation that public goods solutions will exists on commercial basis (roads etc).

Then you're left with charity basically.

And In that case we are back to what I mentioned before, who, how, why.

But if I would have to answer the question regardless all the uncertainty and so on?

I would aim around 10%.

Autumn Sun ☀️🌘☯️ 8mo ago

Again, i'm not asking for a perfectly precise answer. The question, as stated elsewhere, is more of a psychological measure of willingness to give to the local community.

Bearetta 🐻‍❄️🇨🇿 8mo ago

Hah, we have the same take and answer.😀

Autumn Sun ☀️🌘☯️ 8mo ago

I don't mean "giving people free stuff" as such. Most of the example I bring up concern things that cannot realistically be taken for private gain, for example a stretch of paved road, water pipes, sanitation and drainage, a local fire department, designated forestry and wildlife areas, public libraries, public toilets and the like. ie. more or less things that fall uneer classical Public Goods.

Bearetta 🐻‍❄️🇨🇿 8mo ago

This all can easily be privately owned and run🤔

Autumn Sun ☀️🌘☯️ 8mo ago

It can be privately owned and run, yes, but experiences with for example, privately run water utilities in England has shown that it results in both major problems with water supply reliability, water cleanness and constant cost rises, since it is run for-profit.

Utilities also tend to fall under Natural Monopolies since competition is usuallynot economic - a sa parallel experiences with cable internet providers in the USA shows.

Bearetta 🐻‍❄️🇨🇿 8mo ago

I'd love to expand this whole discussion, but duty calls😬

Autumn Sun ☀️🌘☯️ 8mo ago

Indeez, priorities! ☀️🐤🐤🐤💨

Lucas M 8mo ago

Probably 10% to education just because I believe that may potentially have the largest overarching beneficial impact on how we improve those other systems you're refererring to. The global education system needs to be revamped ASAP if we want future generations to play a more practical role in society and so we don't continue to have generations of zombie children (as well as parents) that just do what they're told without question.

Lucas M 8mo ago

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Kevin's Bacon 8mo ago

Not sure how to answer this because I would BE part of the private services getting these things done. I guess it would include how much I would donate to my own initiatives then.

Kevin's Bacon 8mo ago

I'd do something between 20% and 40%, including donations to my own private companies I would set up to do some of this work of providing protection, infrastructure, or education. I would attempt to make my private companies profitable but I would donate some very small fraction regularly to philanthropic efforts or do investments in other private companies doing similar things.

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Frogfren17 ⚡️🐸 bitcoin liberation 8mo ago

Depends on many factors

Red cross no fucking way

CDC or NHI no fucking way

A local hospital maybe

A local general doctor maybe

Autumn Sun ☀️🌘☯️ 7mo ago

Well this fell flat, and for the most part it confirms my suspicions: That there is very little drive in libertarian circles to do community and society building, even assuming that the participants are materially well off. So not much has changed in the past three decades - public and social goods would come solely from an absolute minority of benefactors.

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