Well this fell flat, and for the most part it confirms my suspicions: That there is very little drive in libertarian circles to do community and society building, even assuming that the participants are materially well off. So not much has changed in the past three decades - public and social goods would come solely from an absolute minority of benefactors.
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Broo, you have to look at the cultural environment.
Very consistently, Americans donate more to charity than Australians, who in turn donate more than the French.
More culture of forced charity => less culture of voluntary charity.
This self-report poll data should not be expected to reliably predict behaviour under conditions of freedom.
Well, sure there's that, and also, yes there are few data points dince very few people bothered to voice their opinion, nevertheless the overall feel of both this attempt to tease some debate and consideration out of people here ties in pretty well with the experiences from the "rightist" and individualist libertarian milieu i've had in the past 25 years, which is overall indifferent or hostile to the notion of spending on public goods.
Btw, Nostr is global so I doubt that American statistical data, even if it is somewhat positive, refutes this issue.
I guess I'm not saying I think you're wrong overall, I'm just saying the effect size is wildly inflated by current sociocultural conditions.
And I would expect American data to be different to the global average, that was my point. I would expect a post-fiat society to be even more different but in the same direction.
I agree in principle with what you say, but I'm honestly disappointed that even in a fantasy scenarion where people are told that they would never suffer any personal want, most cannot even imagine giving more than a tenth to societal initiatives, if even a red sat.
Also considering that we are in a place where "bitcoin will make you all astronomically rich" is the daily message and consensus, I get the impression that people don't believe this.
Though, I'll give people credit for honesty.
I feel that. But I always think respondents have no real clue what they'd actually do, its too far from their lived experience.
And I have to say, educated left-liberals IME are even more hostile to spending their money to benefit other people than rightists. They're only very generous with other people's money, and only for politically-advantageous projects.
Likewise agree, but I'm not hoping to change pinko apparatchicks for the better. The best we can hope from them is that they're properly fleeced by their taxes and that they keep their mouths shut so that they don't make us all dumber.
LOL!
In fairness, the sincere ones criticise the present system for all the same things Bitcoiners and Nostriches criticise. They just haven't imagined a solution that isn't "more of the same, but with better people in charge."
I should know - I was one, when I was a teenager with a teenager's faith in authority.
We're all fools before we age.
And besides, actions >> words.