have you done the Layens before or are you switching to them? I have read about it, but never tried. I've been using Langstroth, with one horizontal hive that I tried last year. it didn't work, but I also didn't manage it quite right, will try it again soon.

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Had a failed top bar before. Now have an inherited Langstroth that we ignored for a few years. Starting Layens after hearing Dr Leo and taking his seminar.

We have a group of people each starting with 1-2 of these. And another group locally just did 52 and are starting on another 50.

There is a guy in the NE that does 200+ of the standard Layens by himself. Can't imagine doing 20,000+ lbs of honey