And that is my problem with everything you’re saying. You are appealing to an objective reality but have no proof or logic to back it. The quotation you state about Christ IS reflecting His claims about his self entity. He claimed to forgive sin, claimed to be God which is why people wanted to have him killed for blasphemy.

I hear what you’re saying but it has no logical backing. It’s all based on feeling and I can’t get behind it personally.

Appreciate the discussion Bodhi! Thanks for actually having an awesome conversation about differences and being a respectful person. This is why I love Nostr.