nirvana…enlightenment…once achieved, then you gently lay the body aside and leave this psycho planet once and for all. no repeating the cycle of birth and death.

I think you may enjoy this book: The Disappearance of the Universe by Gary Renard. Read it or listen to it on Audible.

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Yeah cool. My point is once one has achieved Nirvana … while on earth ,., then what they do matters.

I don’t need lessons on Buddhism nor zen. 🧘🏻‍♀️

in that state, they can be a true help to others. it’s ultimately their choice, but being completely under the guidance of one Voice, they can use their mastery to gently awake others.

Ah, I see. You believe in gentle. Fair.