Yeah cool. My point is once one has achieved Nirvana … while on earth ,., then what they do matters.

I don’t need lessons on Buddhism nor zen. 🧘🏻‍♀️

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in that state, they can be a true help to others. it’s ultimately their choice, but being completely under the guidance of one Voice, they can use their mastery to gently awake others.

Ah, I see. You believe in gentle. Fair.