global state and compute with consensus. not the same level of problem as money, and I have problems with PoS, but it's a bit disingenuous to say Ethereum doesn't have its own goals and strengths.

It's just not money and shouldn't be treated like money. once you establish that then maybe people (bitcoiners) can appreciate it for whatever merits it may have.

we can just be friends

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There can be no friendship with dishonest people not trying to stop being dishonest.

What about RGB? Doesn’t it allow for all that but only with interested/involved parties?

I'm not familiar with RGB, no idea.

sounds preferable to me, I think global state is a mistake or at least personally undesirable

rgb.tech if you’re interested. even ChatGPT threw some shade on eth just now 🤣

first I'm hearing of it. looks quite promising.

I'll look into it deeper, thanks!

If something is 99% grift it’s pragmatic to just treat it as 100% grift.

it's just not my thing, but I don't necessarily think it's a grift.

What do you call a 70% premine that brands itself as “ultra sound money” and spews out thousands of shitcoins that are also premined and financed by VC’s and dumped on millions of normal people who have been systematically confused about the distinction between Bitcoin and crypto?

that is extremely bad.

I prefer peer to peer dark forest networks over global state for everything other than double spend for energy-bound money.

but I recognize that other people want portions of their compute and state to be under global consensus, and they use ethereum for that.

it doesn't bother me that other people do things.

Global state could be interesting for some applications. I wouldn't buy "money" that someone else got for free to get a "global state" from people who have rolled back their chain before when it served certain people.

yes I agree with all of this