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There’s levels to that. Huge corporate farms, yes. Your local farmer’s market or your own veggie garden, not so much. My avocado tree produces about 6000 avos per year without a single life taken. I understand your point, but not all vegans resort to Soylent and beyond burgers 😂

No matter which diet someone chooses: carnivore, plant-based, or somewhere in the middle. There’s a spectrum from most harmful to least as far as sourcing is concerned (in my opinion).

BTC_P2P 1y ago

Not many vegans are living off avocado trees in their backyard…. It’s pretty extensive to get near nutrient- sufficient on a vegan diet. Many things sourced from many places. Upon closer analysis of everything I think you’d be surprised.

I’ve done a lot of food gardening and killing / blocking pests (from voles to slugs to mites) is about 50% of being successful. In commercial ag it’s all about killing pests and everything is scaled up. I live in a small rural area and am friends with a small farm owner and he does a lot of killing in a lot of ways, and his main crop is seeds that other farmers and recreational gardeners grow. Pest eradication is extensive. Just sayin.

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Noshole 1y ago

When I said “least harmful”, I did not mean “harmless”.

Those terrible crops that are causing so much death…are what is feeding the animals that become meat.

I’m not claiming the problem doesn’t exist, I am simply stating that the cause of the problem is not necessarily exclusive to vegans.

And again, this is only coming from the “morality” component, I agree with you that plant-based is by no means the “most nutritious” lifestyle.

BTC_P2P 1y ago

Sure, fair, nuanced qualifiers. The deplorable commercial feed lots do feed their livestock corn and soy and other cheap grain. I personally do not support that shit. I have a lot of distain for it. They exist because of fast food at scale and cheap processed meats, both options I will literally never eat. I pay top dollar for fresh meat that comes from local ranches that raise their livestock ethically.

I’m not sure how much of the mono cropping goes to feed lots for fast food and how much goes to plant based products and corn syrup production etc but I do know all of it is disgusting and horrifying. Not participating.

Noshole 1y ago

That’s the best way to do it both for your health and the animal 🫂

Also sounds like you do a better job than me. I try really hard not to contribute, but I’m still going through the process of how to best identify small farms near me with good practices. I decided, I’m gonna have to physically go there and see for myself to feel comfortable, but then I had to have surgery so I that got delayed.

There’s so much false advertisement and misleading labels (e.g., “cage free”) that it’s not the easiest thing to navigate, at least where I live.

BTC_P2P 1y ago

I respect that you care.

Most people don’t care at all. When I see people eating fast food I always disparage them for eating “torture meat” 😂😩 which just sucks that’s a thing. And idk why people are okay with eating it…

Noshole 1y ago

Likewise! I also respect that you heard me out, a lot of carnivores automatically get triggered by my diet journey, but I think that’s probably because there are a lot of really shitty plant-based maxis out there that make the rest of us look like ignorant, judgmental assholes 😂