Nostr Web Client

I try to help keep a few Nostr info sites up to date, including my own. For the people who'd be searching these sites, bad and irrelevant information is worse than no information. I've run into a few things recently that make this little task unnecessarily complicated.

1. There are a lot of new variables with the rise of vibecoding. Good but abandoned happens fast. Open, thoughtful collaboration happens less. Good stuff comes of it, too. It's just harder to sort from the noise.

2. Some people have too many obligations to stay on top of them all. That's not new, but its more obvious in the current, faster paced environment.

3. Enough time has passed that seemingly abandoned projects suddenly come back from the dead.

Plently of people likely don't see these as problems. I also know there's no way to solve said perceived problems. I can only help curate solid information. I know many Nostr projects are passion projects & hobbies. I believe those are critical to the mission at large, at least in the short-mid term. I know there are monetization efforts, funding that runs out, ideas that fade, other priorities, and that time is precious. My own, too. So I'm trying to come up with a new set of standards, by which to judge list-worthiness, that takes current reality into account and doesn't waste time with listing, unlisting, and relisting. So what I'm thinking is, a project:

- needs to exist and be receiving improvements/working smoothly for a minimum of 2 months.

- needs to support multiple sign-in methods and expose relays within 3 clicks (exceptions for one task microapps)

- if it looks and feels vibecoded, it needs to be a legitimately useful tool; in which case, easily available source code can compensate for generic appearances.

- if something is listed & it goes dark or breaks without repair, I will leave it listed for 1 month(ish) from when I notice it. During that time, I will try to contact its developer, if I know how, and proceed accordingly.

Do those seem fair, in regards to everyone involved, with the reader taking the priority seat?

Maybe I am taking this too seriously, but I wouldn't be using Nostr if it wasn't for a solid info site. I've been volunteering some of my time towards this for nearly a year, and I enjoy doing it. I believe the informed user is the sticky user, and I believe everyone's time is best spent doing what they do best, with as minimal interference as possible.

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Dawn 2mo ago

Or maybe I should shut up & post pretty pictures like a good normie 😂

Dawn 2mo ago

🫂 nostr:nprofile1qqsdcnxssmxheed3sv4d7n7azggj3xyq6tr799dukrngfsq6emnhcpspz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezumrpdejz7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t09uq3kamnwvaz7tm5dpjkvmmjv4ehgtnwdaehgu339e3k7mf0stypnq ...there are few situations where this addendum doesn't apply. I appreciate those situations more than I can express. Keeps me goin' 💜😁

liminal 🦠 2mo ago

I'm seeing two kinds of user groups around here, observing the different behaviors - there's the nostr-itself userbase. They care to explore, test out and learn about nostr, its various functionalities and be part of the nostr community. Then there is the nostr-as-utility, they come here for a specific client because it solves a problem that platforms don't. They might not care so much for the nostr tech, but are around for their solution and the community surrounding it.

I wonder if the app recommendations should change based off of that. Like the community focus - those should have pretty stable and monolithic apps for their community. The enthusiasts of the tech... i wonder if they would appreciate tools to use nostr however they want, resources for learning the ins and outs to some degree. Spend some time, looking through existing clients and connect the parts they care about, some degree of modularity while minimizing the fuss it takes to make those connections.

Dawn 2mo ago

I'd argue that there are actually 3, but... Funny enough, my next little "series", after I finish writing about relays, will be focused around using Nostr practically. I don't intend to write about specific niches, but more broadly about stringing various applications & relays together to achieve a purpose, with a few exemplary pairings. I've been a bit busy & locked in my head lately, so progress has slowed. I'm glad you're seeing what I'm seeing though. That tells me it's not a terrible idea.

As far as helping to keep other things current, those are definitely tailored towards a "heard of nostr in a random YT video or tweet" type of audience. Broad and solid, I think, is important for that. I am no final authority on those, but it still feels appropriate to expose my logic, even if it only matters to 5 people 😜🤣

Henry 2mo ago

Lol I have pretty much no idea where you get all the stuff you are talk about from. So I guess its good you are talking about it. That's being said I would prefer to have less clients and projects of high quality over lots of janky ones.

Everything on nostr seems to be adding functionality which can be good but sometimes I then find with that new update stability or function that was working fine before is lost.

Dawn 2mo ago

I appreciate the feedback. I guess that's what I'm trying to focus on; listing stable, usable resources. It's the same issues we've always seen as users, but they happen super fast now instead of taking months 😅

Henry 2mo ago

Yeah one issue most nostr related things suffer from is lack of user knowledge. Miss a note and you might not even realise stuff is there until you trip over it. Perhaps you can put the resources your talking about in your bio then people will find it, as sticky notes seem to be continually absent.

Dawn 2mo ago

I've thought about it, but I have a few reasons to not do that, for now. And, I like my bio 🫠😂

Henry 2mo ago

Completely understand, I like your bio too its probably the main reason I end up bothering you 😁.

Dawn 2mo ago

😂 you don't bother me. I enjoy our chats. I now draw with quality pencils because of you.

Henry 2mo ago

Aww thanks Dawn. I can't find a relevant emoji for that now... let alone one with sparkles. So thank you and much love to you and your high quality pencils

The Beave 2mo ago

You are one of the intrepid few who actually explore the nostr-verse. Your opinion on things is highly prized by those that understand this. I'm one of them. Heck, I'm writing this note in a brand new android app that I'm sure only single digits of people have used at this point. I love this kind of stuff.